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| andras_farkas Tetraglot Groupie Hungary Joined 4901 days ago 56 posts - 165 votes  Speaks: Hungarian*, Spanish, English, Italian | Message 9 of 51 27 March 2013 at 3:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Another important note: if anyone ever decides to participate, please first check if I
already have the book you are considering. If I have an alignment already but you want to do it in a different language, it makes sense to add that language and create a multi-alignment instead of creating another bilingual alignment. (If I have the book in English-French and you want to English-German, add it to the existing alignment and then we instantly have both English-German and French-German as well.) Perhaps I'll keep a google docs spreadsheet that lists all the files and their status so people can avoid duplicating the work of others. ---------------------------- And a question to those who are in the habit of reading parallel books for language learning: do you prefer sentence segmentation (easier to look up things in the other language) or paragraph segmentation (more natural blocks)? Edited by andras_farkas on 27 March 2013 at 11:50pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7206 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 10 of 51 27 March 2013 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | ||
I prefer the smaller sentence based blocking, unless the parallel columns are fairly narrow (like in a newspaper) and the words line up very well. In order for that to be the case, sometimes the more verbose language needs a slightly wider column. Edited by luke on 27 March 2013 at 10:26pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| andras_farkas Tetraglot Groupie Hungary Joined 4901 days ago 56 posts - 165 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Spanish, English, Italian | Message 11 of 51 28 March 2013 at 10:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here's another appetizer until the website is launched: Bulgakov's Master and Margarita in English, Russian, French, German, Italian, Spanish, Hungarian, Polish and Swedish,
here. Of course any desired combination of these 9 languages can be extracted from this table. 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| andras_farkas Tetraglot Groupie Hungary Joined 4901 days ago 56 posts - 165 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Spanish, English, Italian | Message 12 of 51 07 June 2013 at 12:08am | IP Logged | ||
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It took a while, but the site is now up:
www.farkastranslations.com/bilingual_books.php There are quite a few books already, but I will be adding more. Feedback, book requests (with links to the original text and its public-domain translations) and offers of collaboration welcome. I added some links to audiobooks as well, for those who use the listening-reading method. 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4255 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish | Message 13 of 51 07 June 2013 at 5:40am | IP Logged | ||
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Website looks wonderful, thanks this is going to be an incredibly helpful resource.
I'm hoping to contribute in the future, once I've tracked down some appropriate resources. Edited by YnEoS on 07 June 2013 at 5:40am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5866 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 14 of 51 07 June 2013 at 8:36am | IP Logged | ||
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I just started a parallel text of Émile Zola's Paris. I haven't finished cleaning the text up as the English translation doesn't quite match the French at all parts. And to make matters worse i didn't realize that the translator had put in a bunch of "translator's notes", which i removed after the fact and realigned the texts accordingly. I also started translating some parts of the book the original translator skipped. I don't know what would be best for you, if it'd be less work overall to send the original text files (since your setup is probably much more efficient than mine, though i also use hunalign) or to send the .xml file i'm working on now.
One thing i've noticed though is that translations of older works tend to be rather literary when compared to translations of newer books. How should we get texts to you? How can we collaborate? Is there a list of texts being worked on? Or should we refer to the list of books on your site? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| andras_farkas Tetraglot Groupie Hungary Joined 4901 days ago 56 posts - 165 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Spanish, English, Italian | Message 15 of 51 07 June 2013 at 11:24am | IP Logged | ||
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On the first page of this thread, you can find a rough description of the file formats/naming
conventions I use. I'm very busy right now, but in a couple of days I'll post a more detailed description of how you can participate, along with half-completed books that need more work. What I need most is: - Finding texts and audiobooks (the same book in as many languages as possible, making sure they're all in the public domain) and recording metadata following prescribed conventions, making sure the texts are good quality and match each other reasonably well. I need all the data in the right format so that I can generate HTML files with my automated tools. - Doing manual review/editing of texts I already aligned. WRT the specific book, you should probably check Gutenberg.org, wikisource and other sources to see if the book is available in other languages, and, if the English translation you have diverges too much from the original, see if you can find a better one. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| andras_farkas Tetraglot Groupie Hungary Joined 4901 days ago 56 posts - 165 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Spanish, English, Italian | Message 16 of 51 07 June 2013 at 1:44pm | IP Logged | ||
Sources: Gutenberg.org (texts and audiobooks) http://archive.org/details/audio_bookspoetry (audiobooks) wikisource.org French: http://www.ebooksgratuits.com/ Hungarian: http://mek.oszk.hu/ German: http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/W/Inhaltsverzeichnis Links to other reputable free ebook collections welcome. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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