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| Tollpatchig Senior Member United States Joined 4010 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Maltese | Message 1 of 10 10 February 2014 at 7:16pm | IP Logged |
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How effective do you find false immersion?
When I'm trying to create a false immersion, I will often change the settings of my phone and computer into the target language. I also try to make sure that most of the media I take in is in the target language. Personally I feel that is definitely helps a little but its unfortunately undermined by everyone else around you. Despite that I think it's better than nothing. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BaronBill Triglot Senior Member United States HowToLanguages.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4692 days ago 335 posts - 594 votes Speaks: English*, French, German Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Persian | Message 2 of 10 10 February 2014 at 8:10pm | IP Logged |
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With a wife and 3 kids who don't speak any German as well as a completely English speaking work environment, I find false immersion to be almost impossible to create very effectively. The closest I can get is when I go to a German Meetup group and establish a "No English" policy. That feels like immersion to an extent, but it onlu lasts for a few hours...
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| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5265 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 3 of 10 10 February 2014 at 9:24pm | IP Logged |
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Agreeing with BaronBill, there's only so far one can go with "false" immersion in an English-speaking environment. I work in English. I speak on the phone in English. My friends speak English. I write in English. My interactions with most of the public are in English or, occasionally, Spanish. I bought a pair of shoes today in Spanish. Changing cellphones and computers to TL only goes so far, and not very far at that. What helps is having music or radio in the background- even in the car, I get my news, both print, radio and televised from the TL when possible.
Though for me, in Ladino, that's hard to do. The only thing I have for Ladino is wikipedia and it doesn't have very extensive or very deep entries in comparison to other languages. I don't have much for media during the day except for music and a 15 minute Kol Israel broadcast. Plus, I also have to maintain and improve Spanish and Portuguese. The more you can do in your TL and the more you can replace English activities with the TL, the better. Still, there's only so much you can do even in a major target language when your life is in your native language. Every little bit helps, but there's no substitute for real immersion in a TL- 24/7. Edited by iguanamon on 10 February 2014 at 9:32pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5912 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 4 of 10 10 February 2014 at 9:38pm | IP Logged |
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For me the most important part of false immersion is giving myself plenty of opportunities to hear words and structures I've been studying, through music or radio or podcasts or whatever else. The more I can reinforce things like this, the more it helps, and it seems to work better than simply seeing the same thing again during active study. It helps me learn to listen and understand what I'm hearing, and it teaches me vocabulary because my ears pick out the words that sound familiar. There's no better form of review for me.
Personally - and this is based on me only - it's not undermined by people around me. I will always need to speak Norwegian and English - so if anything it helps me learn to hop back and forth without getting confused. But I can fill my alone time with what I want. Obviously most of us can't recreate perfect immersion environments by ourselves, but I think the more time we can fill with TL stuff, the more we'll get the good effects of it :-) But it's not always obvious that it's working as intended. Liz 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 5 of 10 10 February 2014 at 11:37pm | IP Logged |
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I suspect it's much more useful for introverts. I mean I'm perfectly happy not communicating face-to-face all that much.
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| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4536 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 6 of 10 10 February 2014 at 11:52pm | IP Logged |
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Well I can tell you that even living in Berlin, it's hard to achieve total immersion (not sure about the use of the word 'false') even here from German.
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| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4293 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 7 of 10 11 February 2014 at 2:08am | IP Logged |
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I find that this is extremely easier in a non-Anglophone country than in an Anglophone
country. I follow installation directions for example, a chair, etc. My mobile phone is in a target language that changes every month, my Windows is in Spanish, my Google Chrome is in Dutch, my Internet Explorer in Portuguese, but in the UK it is almost impossible to do anything further, since I cannot go to Tesco's and start speaking Spanish or Dutch to the till, or go to a pub and order in French or anything. I stopped watching all Anglophone television, with the exception of (Test) cricket, since they do not usually broadcast it in anything else but English (Afrikaans in South Africa, but I do not live there nor study it). At least football is broadcast in almost every major language. However, it definitely helps than keeping everything in English. I still rate it as very useful. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4447 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French | Message 8 of 10 11 February 2014 at 2:28am | IP Logged |
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Throughout the day you'd try to think only in your target language. And everyday people would record things in
their day planner, write notes of various kinds. You basically stop making notes in English or your native language and do it intentionally in your target language. There are all sorts of electronic devices around you with menu settings. If your target language is available, you'd select that language. You can even change the background image on your computer to show text in your target language. Are these significant? May be in the long run... Edited by shk00design on 11 February 2014 at 2:29am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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