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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes  Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 17 of 25 27 June 2014 at 5:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Serbian/Bosnian/Croatian is a neat language, native speakers write the way they speak, only in Brazil you see people saying VI ELE but writing VI-O, this is called diglossia. In S/B/C, the same variant is used in soap operas and legalese, because our languages have been democratized, and ''folksy'' forms are respected (thanks to Vuk Karadzic and Ljudevit Gaj), and not ridiculed, as in Brazil. I've never learned formal grammar in school, and subjects like ''redação'' would be laughed at here, if they existed, the same is true of having a native language test for native speakers who want to enroll a medical school or a faculty of engineering. Edited by Medulin on 27 June 2014 at 5:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4370 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans | Message 18 of 25 27 June 2014 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Chung has written out several arguments for Slovak being the "easiest" and I think I would tend to agree. The only issue with Slovak is that I get the impression you're more likely to be in the position where you have to seek out resources/speakers, they won't find you. So I would still say that either Polish or Russian are the best to learn. There are a lot of resources at various levels of ability (not to be underestimated--not everybody learns well from every textbook or method of learning) and a lot of speakers.
I would say that what makes Slavic languages challenging is that there is so much to think about in one sentence and so many opportunities to say something incorrectly. The cases are only one part of that issue, and I don't know that learning a language without cases would necessarily be the big solution. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4716 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 19 of 25 27 June 2014 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. What I actually meant was that saying "Serbian is hard because I know people who live 10 years here and haven't learned it" is not a valid argument. I don't know how hard Serbian actually is but, for example, there are countless foreigners living in the US for several years who can't learn English (supposedly an "easy" language) to a high level. The same can happen with some natives. I wasn't talking about the diglossia contained in "eu vi ele", but things like "a gente fomos...", "nós vai..", "...isso é pra mim fazer", etc., which are just plain wrong. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 20 of 25 27 June 2014 at 10:07pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Isn't it true for any language? Of course Slavic languages have irregular morphology. But many other languages do. What so special about the Slavic ones? 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 21 of 25 27 June 2014 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Well, it gets less true with closely related languages :-)
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| Stolan Senior Member United States Joined 4033 days ago 274 posts - 368 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Thai, Lowland Scots Studies: Arabic (classical), Cantonese | Message 22 of 25 28 June 2014 at 4:33am | IP Logged | ||||||||
The main difference is where the irregularity come from. Most of the difficult irregularity doesn't come from sound changes (except for mobile stress) but from how the grammatical devices going back to Proto IE were created. (I don't mean someone literally planned the language.) It doesn't have the "regularity within irregularity" a sound change irregularity may have. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 23 of 25 28 June 2014 at 11:52am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Where the irregularity comes from is almost entirely irrelevant for how you are learning
the language though. It's useful if you are a scholar of Slavic linguistics, but most people don't start studying Russian and then try to figure out how it was formed from PIE. I find all the Slavic languages more or less equally difficult, although my impressions are limited to Russian and the couple introductory stuff I've read on Serbian, Czech and Macedonian (thanks, Torbyrne). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 24 of 25 28 June 2014 at 9:12pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Easiest Slavic language - is this a good example of an oxymoron?
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