tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4048 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 1 of 7 05 September 2014 at 10:44am | IP Logged |
Hi everyone,
I just started to study Castillan Spanish with Assimil "Lo spagnolo senza sforzo".
Since I'm Italian I have already a quite good passive comprehension so going through the
Assimil lessons is completely effortless, meaning that I don't have to work so hard like
I'm doing with Dutch. I can therefore skip beginner methods and grammars.
I would like, instead, insights about intermediate to advanced grammars, that I will use
when I will have finish with Lo spagnolo senza sforzo or even after the advanced course
(that I heard it's full of bad translation but should not affect my studies at all).
Thank you very much in advance!
Tristano
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7206 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 2 of 7 05 September 2014 at 12:21pm | IP Logged |
If you want to make your spoken Spanish grammar unbeatable, try
http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php?page=Spanish%20B asic.
Edited by luke on 05 September 2014 at 12:29pm
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tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4048 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 3 of 7 05 September 2014 at 1:04pm | IP Logged |
Hi Luke, thanks for your advice.
I have only a couple of perplexities about the fsi course, that I know being really
high quality:
- it is targeted to English speakers
- it's just a supposition but I fear that focuses more on south american Spanish
I would prefer the method to be written and monolingual or in Italian, so I can avoid
expalanations about things that work differently in English but are so straightforward
because they just work like in Italian.
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Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5010 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 4 of 7 05 September 2014 at 5:25pm | IP Logged |
Some of the monolingual grammars might be perfect for you. The Gramática series by Anaya ele en goes up to B2 and it is excellent. Gramática des uso del espanol is great as well(or even better) and leads to the C levels.
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iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5263 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 5 of 7 05 September 2014 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
I agree wholeheartedly with Cavesa- Gamática de Uso del Español B1-B2 to start, followed by the C1 book.
Another excellent monolingual Spanish resource for learners is the Centro Virtual Cervantes Aveteca multimedia exercises. They include B1, B2 and C1 exercices to help consolidate grammar and usage.
Those who are just starting out in Spanish should also try the A1 and A2 exercises in addition to whatever course they may be using. Scroll down towards the bottom. The exercises are best viewed in a separate tab and increased in size by pressing "ctrl and +" simultaneously until the desired size is reached.
Edited by iguanamon on 11 September 2014 at 8:53pm
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1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4291 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan
| Message 6 of 7 05 September 2014 at 7:30pm | IP Logged |
I also agree with respect to the Gramática de Uso books. I only have the C1-C2 book,
and to me, (and if I remember correctly, to Crush as well) it appeared a bit easier
than expected. We are probably both in the C level somewhere, and quite a lot of those
things look familiar, with some new concepts that I perhaps may or may not have
seen but would need further investigation. So perhaps you can use the B1-B2 book
earlier, at A2 and see if it is plausible at that level for you, and probably right
after Lo spagnolo senza sforzo.
This is Gramática de Uso C1-
C2 with índice shown. Maybe you can try this right after finishing B2.
There is also Gramática para la Composición.
This is probably more for writing, but seems quite useful--I plan to order myself a
copy too.
Finally, a grammar manual. Although it is Anglophone, the manaul
A New Reference Grammar of Modern
Spanish is one of the best grammar books that I have read. It often enters
extreme detail and discussion of minutiæ that is helpful rather than impedent.
A completely hispanophone publication is by the RAE herself:
Manual: Nueva Gramática de la Lengua Española.
It is a massive tome, around 1000 pages, with font the size of this forum post. Also
extremely detailed, and around 50 lines it must be per page. I once read this thing
like a novel, and it took me quite a long time to finish, but you cannot but improve
your grammar from reading it. I believe that there is also an elongated version, with
two tomes, which must be combined at greater than 1500 pages. In this manner, I would
not worry about being influenced by Latin American Spanish--I never used the FSI Basic
thoroughly, but I heard some of the audios, and there is an obvious emphasis on Latin
American Spanish (the accents sound mostly Mexican and Central American particularly),
and I am unsure how often they used vosotros. It also has a large quantity of English.
With RAE, obviously they must cover the entire Hispanophone world, but being centred
in Madrid, the capital of the Hispanphone world, the emphasis is more on Peninsular
Spanish.
Edited by 1e4e6 on 05 September 2014 at 8:43pm
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tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4048 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 7 of 7 06 September 2014 at 5:49pm | IP Logged |
Guys,
thanks a million!
I'll be repetitive, but you guys have really a very good answers for every question.
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