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| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3911 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 1 of 9 08 September 2014 at 12:42am | IP Logged | |||||
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I plan on seriously studying French in the future (was studying it before but decided to put it on hold) so I thought I'd start picking at it with an audio course during my commutes. My friend lent me Paul Noble, which I've heard good things about.
First, for anyone that has finished it, could you elaborate on your experience? I like to get a feel for what I should expect from a course; how it stacks up to Pimsleur and MT (which it already seems like a clone of, but it doesn't bother me), which I'm familiar with from other languages. Second (more French related): of the few things I know about French, I always learned that the consonant at the end of a word gets pronounced if the next word begins with a vowel. However, in PN, they have you say "vous avez" (which I've always heard pronounced "vooz-ahvay") but the speaker doesn't pronounce the 's' ("voo-ahvay"). Is this maybe a regional thing, or is the whole consonant-vowel rule more optional? Edited by soclydeza85 on 08 September 2014 at 12:43am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5603 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 2 of 9 08 September 2014 at 1:32am | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, liaison in french is a complicated theme and depends on the register of language you use. The liaison between a personal pronoun and its verb is practical obligatory and usually observed. But there is no general rule like you quoted ("the consonant at the end of a word gets pronounced if the next word begins with a vowel"). You won't for example never ever pronounce the t of the word et, even if you are reciting a high style poem (where you do every liaison possible, come hell or high water. Some liaisons are compulsary, some are possible and some are even prohibited.
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| flydream777 Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6495 days ago 77 posts - 102 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: German, Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Greek, Hungarian, Armenian, Irish, Italian | Message 3 of 9 08 September 2014 at 2:51am | IP Logged | |||||
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You should get Assimil New French With Ease.
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| James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5379 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 4 of 9 08 September 2014 at 3:24am | IP Logged | |||||
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Is there anywhere cheaper than Audible.com to get Paul Noble French in the US? My library says they cannot get it on inter-library loan.
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| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3911 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 5 of 9 08 September 2014 at 3:54am | IP Logged | |||||
I already have it and it's been sitting on my shelf, calling my name for the past 6 months. Between work and classes I have very little extra time, and the time I do have outside of my car I devote German (my #1). I figured, since I've already gone through all of my audio-only German courses (Pimsleur, MT), I would start picking at French in my car during my commutes. Plus, I've always felt that a little preliminary work should be done before starting Assimil. But yeah, it's been calling me... I hope to start it once things settle in and I get a routine going. Edited by soclydeza85 on 08 September 2014 at 3:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3911 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 6 of 9 08 September 2014 at 3:59am | IP Logged | |||||
The only two outlets I can think of are Amazon and Ebay. I know that Audible used to do this thing where, if you got the promo code and signed up as a new member, you could get 1 or 2 items for free. Last I checked they were still doing it, search around on google for more info. I'm sure you can't get the whole course for free (or whether the have PN at all) but maybe they'll do the first few parts or something. It's worth checking out. Edited by soclydeza85 on 08 September 2014 at 4:00am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4913 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 7 of 9 08 September 2014 at 12:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
I know this is off topic, but it might be worth starting to preview the first Assimil CD while commuting. Listen to it several times, and each time you will probably understand a bit more. Then you will come to the lessons with questions in mind, such as "why did they say it that way?" or "what was that word they used there?" Coming to a lesson with questions in your mind means you are more likely to remember what you learn. Plus you'll be developing your audio comprehension. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written) | Message 8 of 9 08 September 2014 at 12:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@OP: The liason becomes simple when you get the hang of it.
In fast spoken french, the words vous and avez usually run into each other. So vous avez is pronounced as vouzavey. But if you were to pronounce them slowly, pausing betwen the two words: vous (pause) avez, the liason would no longer be used. So it would sound something like: voo(rhymes with zoo) ... (pause) ... avey Hope that helps. :) Bon apprentissage ! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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