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| glidefloss Senior Member United States Joined 5967 days ago 138 posts - 154 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 17 of 28 25 January 2015 at 8:12am | IP Logged | ||
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thnks for replies , especiall serpent.
It's almost impossible for me to find audiobooks. I've searched Spanish language torrent sites. All the books I've found were computer voices. I live in Mexico City, but I've never seen any audiobooks in any big book store. the audiobooks on youtube are abbreviated or computer voices or summaries 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 18 of 28 25 January 2015 at 8:56am | IP Logged | ||
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Have you searched using the specific book name in Spanish? This goes for both options. To get an unabridged version, add completo or íntegro to your query. And of course audiolibro. voz humana will exclude computer voices. (based on this thread)
albalearning.com also has some amateur recordings, mostly quite short ;) Edited by Serpent on 25 January 2015 at 9:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5099 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German | Message 19 of 28 25 January 2015 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | ||
Have you checked your local library? They may have a website which allows patrons to borrow audiobooks for free. Edited by Darklight1216 on 25 January 2015 at 3:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4443 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French | Message 20 of 28 26 January 2015 at 3:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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I started reading a novel in my second language (English) within a year. After that started reading all sorts of
mystery and detective novels. Spent a few hours every day watching children's programs. Took a while to get into American comedies because I was brought up in a different culture. I didn't get into reading novels in the first language Chinese until much later. Back in the days when I was in Hong Kong, the school curriculum was so heavy that after class, elementary school students would be home doing at least 2 hours of homework. And some parents hired private tutors or sent their kids to a tutoring centre to help them keep up academically. Time was so tight that very few of us even had time to visit a school / local library. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5246 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 21 of 28 26 January 2015 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've been learning Mandarin for 3 years and I still need a dictionary to help with my
reading. I can read and understand maybe 90% of a talk show transcript, but sometimes only 70% of a literary novel. These percentages are probably worse, because I'm probably biased as hell. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| glidefloss Senior Member United States Joined 5967 days ago 138 posts - 154 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 22 of 28 29 January 2015 at 5:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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good idea looking for audiobooks at library. I have heard from Mexican friends here audiobooks are hard to come
by in Spanish -- definitely most that I find are in Spain Spanish I started Kafka's Metamorphisis LR, and it's much, much harder than Harry Potter . Maybe this explains part of my problem. I am reading On the Road in just text too, which is almost manageable but only because I already know the story so well -- I still get lost and mix things up 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kees Nonaglot Newbie Canada learn-to-read-foreig Joined 5183 days ago 37 posts - 59 votes Speaks: Dutch*, Swedish, French, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Hungarian | Message 23 of 28 08 February 2015 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Reading a foreign language from the beginning is possible if you have a grasp of the grammar and about 200 of the most frequent words, and if you have a large amount of texts that have correct and in-context pop-up translation. So no google translation that you have to wait a few seconds for. Immediate correct translation for all words. Also the 103.456th on the frequency list.
I tried with guess-reading, dictionary or dual language but having immediate and correct pop-up translation (preferably with a system that remembers which words you don't know) works the best for me. I tried some sites with google or computer translation but many times the translation is off the mark (and comes up only after a second or two) and if you know too little of a language this is disruptive and if you know a lot already of a language you start to see all the errors in the google translation and see that it's a waste of time. I am looking for more immediate pop-up manually translated texts like I gathered on my website bermudaword.com. With all the effort and money that has been poured in language learning systems and setting up websites with google translations we could have had millions of words worth of text manually translated correctly to learn to read languages fast. That is if you like reading. Some people I know don't even read books in their native language so I wouldn't expect them to practice a new language by reading :-) Learning must be fun or it's just another chore. Edited by Kees on 08 February 2015 at 5:41pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4143 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 24 of 28 08 February 2015 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Start with a really easy novel. The first novel that I read in Spanish was Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It was a
story that I knew well in English, which made it much easier to read. I had to skip over all of the poems/songs because I just didn't get them. But I was able to read the story fairly well. It was my first exposure to past tense verbs, but because I knew a lot of the roots from studying present tense verbs, they didn't trip me up too much. I read four novels for children under 12 (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, The Witches, and Despereaux) before I tried to read something harder. Each book was easier than the last. By the time I'd read all four, I was prepared enough to tackle the first Harry Potter book. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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