dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4667 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 1 of 7 18 March 2015 at 2:46pm | IP Logged |
Or so this article claims.
This seems to go further than just learning about a different culture.
At the same time the BBC reports that language learning is difficult in schools. Probably not news here!
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4709 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 2 of 7 18 March 2015 at 4:15pm | IP Logged |
I think living abroad does it more than learning the language. It's not about learning
about a different culture, but experiencing and living it while you live abroad. I am
doing a homestay in a provincial town in China called Chengde. You can bet that my
worldview will have changed after that, and it's already been severely damaged in outlook
by my sojourns in other countries besides China. Especially when you travel to non-
western countries, this drastically changes things - things changed when I lived in
Belgium (and things were always influenced by the time I spent in Canada), but my month
in Russia, 6 weeks in Romania and now my time in China changes it even more.
Edited by tarvos on 18 March 2015 at 4:16pm
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chaotic_thought Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 3544 days ago 129 posts - 274 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Dutch, French
| Message 3 of 7 18 March 2015 at 9:02pm | IP Logged |
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German speakers matched ambiguous scenes with goal-oriented scenes about 40% of the time on average, compared with 25% among English speakers. This difference implies that German speakers are more likely to focus on possible outcomes of people’s actions
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To me this only implies that the instructions given to the German speakers more clearly described what the subjects were supposed to identify. As a second-language German speaker I've sometimes read something in German and thought it was very skillfully and explained in detail, then if I compared it to an English version, I didn't get that feeling. It doesn't mean that one language is "better" or more attenuated to such explanations, it could just reflect the skill of whoever composed those explanations.
Besides, they only had a sample size of 15 people from each language group.
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shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4446 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French
| Message 4 of 7 19 March 2015 at 5:57am | IP Logged |
Part of learning a language is learning a culture. However, when people emigrate to another country,
differences may occur. As first generations, they would keep a lot of their values from their old country. The
younger generation who goes to school in a new country would adopt many of the values of that country even
if they would speak to their parents in their native language at home.
I know a few ethnic Chinese in Canada who was brought up to be frugal because they parents' generation
grew up in poverty in China during the War. They would buy things only when needed and rarely spend money
on entertainment. They tend to be money-oriented and would invest every cent of their income whenever
possible. Unlike people they considered to be "westernized", they would make the distinction that westerners
would go into fancy restaurants and pay for alcoholic beverages which cost more money while they (the
Chinese) would eat at cheaper Chinese places and drink tea which gets refilled with hot water.
The next generation who grew up in Canada are more likely to take time off for vacation with their kids. The
older generation of Chinese used to think about saving every cent to send back to relatives in China and skip
the expensive vacation which may include airfare, car rental, hotel stay, etc. Whether they speak Chinese or
English doesn't change their "Chinese mentality" of frugality.
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Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4310 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French
| Message 5 of 7 24 March 2015 at 11:44pm | IP Logged |
Language learning turned me right wing.
Well, moderate, but I was quite a lefty to begin with.
Something to do with the self help ethos needed in language learning. It doesn't exist on
the left.
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7207 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 6 of 7 25 March 2015 at 12:42am | IP Logged |
The right wing deception engine is a powerhouse in the U.S. If you don't pay attention, they will fool you.
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Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4310 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French
| Message 7 of 7 25 March 2015 at 8:14am | IP Logged |
Sounds scary. Thank heavens I'm a brit in Spain.
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