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Abavagada
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United States
abavagada.net
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Studies: Italian

 
 Message 1 of 11
29 August 2009 at 12:02am | IP Logged 
I was one of the co-founders of UniLang and am working on a new site for teaching languages with a different approach.

Some of the major components are:
Member communication (chat, forum, wiki, penpal)
Interactive (games, exercises)
Multimedia (videos, radio, dialogs)
Immersion
Courses
Printing (exercises, phrasebooks, grammar, etc. for people to print use offline)
Readings

I have been working on it for just over a year now, and many of the components are functioning. It will be for any language I can make resources for, starting with Italian.

It is free for everyone to use, no fees or costs, and hopefully no overt advertising.

I would like to know what you, learners and teachers, would want in such a site. I am trying to have it as both a language community in which people can learn and contribute as well as a resource site that people can get materials.

Please let me know. Thanks

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Volte
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Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian
Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese

 
 Message 2 of 11
29 August 2009 at 12:07am | IP Logged 
It sounds interesting; are you allowing access to it yet?

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Abavagada
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 Message 3 of 11
29 August 2009 at 12:54am | IP Logged 
Volte wrote:
It sounds interesting; are you allowing access to it yet?


Sure. I just didn't want to violate any forum rules by linking to my own site.

http://www.parleremo.org

It's still in various stages of construction, and the content parts are far from final. However, I thought it would be a good idea, while it still is under construction, to know what people actually want, rather than just going on what I think they want.

      
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Master Moron
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 Message 4 of 11
31 August 2009 at 6:36pm | IP Logged 
One thing I would stress regarding chats is strong security. I got a bad virus by logging onto a chat with someone in Busuu. I don't really know exactly what you can do on your end to make sure the site is secure, but strong moderation to assure that all users are legitimate would most definitely be appreciated. Anyway, I'll definitely check out your site when I get a chance.
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tommus
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Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish

 
 Message 5 of 11
31 August 2009 at 9:26pm | IP Logged 
I like the look and feel of Parleremo. I think you are off to a great start. I see in Italian, you provide the definite articles (li, la, lo. I am not too famliar with Italian). That is good. Many sites ignore this simple but important part. I like your attention to detail. Your site is very attractive and cheery.

Suggestion: I find a whiteboard to be a very effective tool for interactive (between two or more people) language learning. I use Scribblar with Skype. You might consider at least a link to Scribblar and perhaps some more detailed usages. http://www.scribblar.com

You mentioned interactive games and exercises. I personally have not found that sort of thing to be very useful or interesting on the web sites I have used. Probably other people do find it useful. I guess it depends on the nature of these games and exercises.

Do you have any plans for Dutch? I'd like to help out but my Dutch is not good enough to take on such a task by myself. However, I'd be interested in helping a native Dutch speaker with parts of a Dutch section.

Great looking site. Good luck with it.



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Abavagada
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 Message 6 of 11
01 September 2009 at 1:10am | IP Logged 
tommus wrote:
I like the look and feel of Parleremo. I think you are off to a great start. I see in Italian, you provide the definite articles (li, la, lo. I am not too famliar with Italian). That is good. Many sites ignore this simple but important part. I like your attention to detail. Your site is very attractive and cheery.


I wasn't originally going to include them. But I realized that they are often very important in becoming aware of gender, which we don't have in English.

tommus wrote:
Suggestion: I find a whiteboard to be a very effective tool for interactive (between two or more people) language learning. I use Scribblar with Skype. You might consider at least a link to Scribblar and perhaps some more detailed usages. http://www.scribblar.com


I was looking at several free ones on freshmeat.net and sourceforge.net, and didn't find any that did what I wanted. Thanks for the headsup on Scribblar. I will look into it. I definitely want a whiteboard system, and I don't think I have enough skills yet to write my own.


tommus wrote:
You mentioned interactive games and exercises. I personally have not found that sort of thing to be very useful or interesting on the web sites I have used. Probably other people do find it useful. I guess it depends on the nature of these games and exercises.


I don't know how useful they are either. Some sites, like Quia, have lots of them. I know people have used the ones I've made in the past. Since I want the site to be open to a wide range of ages, I figure the games will help keep people interested. The ones I have installed so far for games are Memory, Word Search, Word Scramble and Battleship. I have 6 more planned. For exercises, I have a Vocab Quizzer (multiple choice) and Flashcards, and plan on adding Phrase Builder and Gap (put in the word that properly completes).

tommus wrote:
Do you have any plans for Dutch? I'd like to help out but my Dutch is not good enough to take on such a task by myself. However, I'd be interested in helping a native Dutch speaker with parts of a Dutch section.


I have plans for putting in all languages. I currently have some amount of material (wordlists, phrases, grammar) for 8 languages: Italian, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Swedish, Romanian, and Lithuanian, which I pulled together many years ago. I would welcome any help in any languages. Once I get the main parts of the site running, I can start adding in more languages.


tommus wrote:
Great looking site. Good luck with it.


Thanks! And I look forward to further feedback as it moves along.


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Abavagada
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 Message 7 of 11
01 September 2009 at 1:18am | IP Logged 
Master Moron wrote:
One thing I would stress regarding chats is strong security. I got a bad virus by logging onto a chat with someone in Busuu. I don't really know exactly what you can do on your end to make sure the site is secure, but strong moderation to assure that all users are legitimate would most definitely be appreciated. Anyway, I'll definitely check out your site when I get a chance.


I plan on using 2 technologies for the chats. One is an AJax chat that is tied closely to the forums. Another one is Ribbit, which is an ajax chat gateway to the IRC. As soon as I find a place on IRC to host a chat room, I will be having that.

I don't know how the virus would be gotten from the chat. It's hard to prevent non-registered chatters on an IRC chat. I do plan to have strong moderation on any of the chats, regardless. I have been working with chats for many years and know what can go on in them.

Thanks for your reply. It's good that people are interested and want things done well.


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tommus
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 Message 8 of 11
01 September 2009 at 8:21am | IP Logged 
Abavagada wrote:

tommus wrote:
Suggestion: I find a whiteboard to be a very effective tool for interactive (between two or more people) language learning. I use Scribblar with Skype. You might consider at least a link to Scribblar and perhaps some more detailed usages. http://www.scribblar.com


I think some of our new forum police are a bit too trigger happy. The above link was removed when it was quoted by Abavagada, a Newbie here, from my post above where it was not removed. That sort of thing seems to serve no purpose at all.

And strangely, when you quote the article where the link was removed (as I just did), it is not removed but is sitting there in full view. Weird! Try it yourself.


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