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davidwelsh Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5527 days ago 141 posts - 307 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, Norwegian, Esperanto, Swedish, Danish, French Studies: Polish, Sanskrit, Tibetan, Pali, Mandarin
| Message 1 of 20 13 December 2009 at 11:36pm | IP Logged |
I'm interested in Sámi, and was wondering if anyone else here has studied it or speaks it natively.
I've watched a few films that are wholly or partly in Sámi (Ofelas, Bazo, The Cuckoo) and I think it's a really beautiful and fascinating language. I think there are quite a few Sámi in Oslo where I live, so I'm sure I'd be able to find people to speak to. Also, the fact that it has (in theory) equal status with Norwegian means that there will probably be quite a lot of resources available - at least in proportion to the number of speakers.
I've also discovered that the main private adult education provider in Norway (Folkeuniversitetet) runs distance learning courses in Northern Sámi - where they give you your money back if you complete the course! (I imagine this is sponsored by the government...)
Samiskkurs - in Norwegian
Edited by davidwelsh on 13 December 2009 at 11:37pm
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Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6892 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 20 14 December 2009 at 12:00pm | IP Logged |
I find it vaguely interesting in a general sort of way, but not enough so I'm afraid, to take up studying it, even if I am likely to have a huge discount in effort based on the similarity with Finnish.
I saw a Sami language course on a Swedish website a year or so ago. As far as I could see quite a few similarities with Finnish were apparent in the vocabulary and grammar structures, though it was still very different, perhaps like comparing English and Icelandic. IIRC the course had quite a nice layout with graphics and everything. I'm not sure whether I still have the link, but I'll post it here if I can find it.
Edited by Hencke on 14 December 2009 at 12:08pm
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| hcholm Heptaglot Groupie Norway Joined 6059 days ago 43 posts - 65 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Swedish, Danish, German, French, Polish Studies: Czech
| Message 3 of 20 14 December 2009 at 12:34pm | IP Logged |
I once took the first part and half of the second part of the "Davvin" course. I didn't
like the course very much, it was too old-fashioned for me, but it's the only one I've
heard of. I feel I need some other way to learn the language. I'll see if I can learn
some just by using a grammar and a couple of novels and following Sami programs on the
Norwegian Broadcasting corp. I already have the books, but I'm too busy learning other
languages at the moment.
I can recommend the yearly comic magazines from
http://www.calliidlagadus.org/web/index.php?buotgirjjit=41&g iella1=nor. They even come in
South Sami, Lule Sami and Kven. I have them all, including the Vulle Vuojaš book, which
was made out of the remaining copies of Sami Donald Duck magazines from the 80's.
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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5922 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish
| Message 4 of 20 14 December 2009 at 10:46pm | IP Logged |
I was curiuos about Northern Saami over the summer, but not enough to really study it, though I did find the following links interesting:
Sámi Siida of North America This is a page of links. Most, if not all, of the links actually work.
University of Helsinki Encyclopædia of Saami Culture This has some good information in English and Finnish and some sound files of people actually speaking various Saami languages.
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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5836 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 5 of 20 14 December 2009 at 11:48pm | IP Logged |
It doesn't interest me to learn Sami, but I support the existance of the Sami language completely.
They all speak another Scandi language just as well as they speak Sami, usually better. Plus there are several dialects which are not really mutually intelligible..
When I saw "The Cuckoo" I thought that the Sami language spoken by the Lapp woman sounded suspiciously Finnish influenced. I had not known they were so similar. Sami languages as they sound in Sweden do not sound quite like that. But I know it only from occassionally encountering it on radio and TV though.
At school I knew one guy who was a Lapp but his language skills in Sami were not that great. The school was legally required to provide him with lessons in Sami but there were no teachers in the area where the school was, and he wasn't very interested.
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 6 of 20 15 December 2009 at 12:14am | IP Logged |
Hencke wrote:
I find it vaguely interesting in a general sort of way, but not enough so I'm afraid, to take up studying it, even if I am likely to have a huge discount in effort based on the similarity with Finnish.
I saw a Sami language course on a Swedish website a year or so ago. As far as I could see quite a few similarities with Finnish were apparent in the vocabulary and grammar structures, though it was still very different, perhaps like comparing English and Icelandic. IIRC the course had quite a nice layout with graphics and everything. I'm not sure whether I still have the link, but I'll post it here if I can find it. |
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Is this the course, Hencke?
http://www4.ur.se/gulahalan/
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| Gamauyun Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5646 days ago 26 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Romanian, German
| Message 7 of 20 15 December 2009 at 10:58am | IP Logged |
To what degree do Sami communities actually use the language? Are there still communities which use a Sami language as their primary means of communication, or is it more just a part of Sami heritage, that isn't really used for day to day communication by most people (like maybe Yiddish or Irish Gaelic)?
From the little bit I've heard of NRK's Sami programs, it is really beautiful. It might be something I'd be interested in someday, if I ever get to a decent level in Finnish.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6907 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 8 of 20 15 December 2009 at 4:20pm | IP Logged |
I believe that (some varieties of) Sami is indeed in use. We have news in Sami several days a week on national television here in Sweden, and now and then there are broadcasts from the Sami Parliament.
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