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Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5117 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 1 of 15 05 December 2010 at 3:46pm | IP Logged |
Hello :)
I started learning Bokmål about two months ago using mainly Vil du lære norsk by
Stanisław Łęcki and Pimsleur. I would love to listen to some native songs with
discernible lyrics. Any genre is welcomed. I would appreciate your help.
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5121 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 2 of 15 05 December 2010 at 4:09pm | IP Logged |
Have you tried going to any radio/tv websites?
Both NRK (http://www.nrk.no) and P4 (http://www.p4.no) offer streaming of several music stations, either pop or folk.
Obviously, you won't find lyrics there, but during streaming you're shown the artist/song. From there you can google for any specific song lyrics you want.
Both stations are good resources.
R.
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| Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5117 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 3 of 15 05 December 2010 at 8:04pm | IP Logged |
Thanks a lot hrhenry :)
I checked online radio stations, they are broadcasting mainly well known English hits,
unfortunately. I found one with documentaries (NRK Gull) which is a bit too difficult for
my language level but at least I will get used to the sound of the language. I thought
that picking one or two bands would be a lot easier, just becouse I would be able to
follow the lyrics and enjoy the music. I still hope that i will hear 'suitable' song on
the radio.
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| hcholm Heptaglot Groupie Norway Joined 6052 days ago 43 posts - 65 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Swedish, Danish, German, French, Polish Studies: Czech
| Message 4 of 15 05 December 2010 at 10:48pm | IP Logged |
Norwegian pop music is in a sad state. The "quality" is higher than ever, with well-crafted tunes and excellent production, but in an attempt to sound international and cool, most artists sing in English. And they take themselves very seriously indeed. One of the most ridiculous examples is the group Big Bang, which tries so hard, so hard to sound like they are 50 years old and live in a southern US state in the 70's, down to their English pronunciation and the plectrums. The result: Songs about "Girl in Oslo" and "Swedish Television" played by a root rock band from Alabama, 1974. As silly, boring and sad as it can get.
I think it started in the 80's, with the success of a-Ha. After them, every artist wanted an international career, but you can count on one hand those who actually had one. Contrast with Sweden, where the artists are still both more professional and successful abroad, while at the same time, many artists still sing in Swedish. In fact, so many popular artists sing in Swedish that on the Norwegian "youth" channel P3, you can hear more pop songs in Swedish than in Norwegian on a good day.
The sad result of this is that a whole generation of pop music fans have virtually no new Norwegian songs in the "soundtrack of their lives", except for maybe just a handful of newer songs by three or four aging rock groups. On the Norwegian "adult oriented" channel P1, you may hear a lot of Norwegian songs, but they are either old songs or new songs that sound like they are old songs.
If you're not that interested in the music itself, you should listen to P1. But beware, most songs will be in a dialect or variety different from the rather conservative Bokmål found in many text books.
http://www.nrk.no/kanal/nrk_p1/1.7330523 shows the most played songs on P1, week 46. Of 33 songs, half are in English and one is in Swedish (maybe two). I don't know all the Norwegian songs, but I'd guess half of them or more are in some dialect. My bet is that only 5 songs or less are sung in something that's close to Bokmål.
http://spillelister.p3.no/7-Nrk_P3/abc shows the most played songs on P3, 51 songs. One in Swedish, approx. 10 in Norwegian. Of the 7 A-list songs, only one is in Norwegian, in a dialect that's definitely not for beginners.
If I were to choose an artist for learning Norwegian, I'd definitely go for Lillebjørn Nilsen, a singer/songwriter who was big in the 70's and 80's. He wrote songs using a mix of Bokmål and the Oslo dialect, with excellent diction. His songs are poetic, but accessible, often about everyday life in Oslo. He is a major contributor to the modern Norwegian song heritage, and many of his songs are immortal classics and cultural reference points. I'd recommend the collection album "40 spor: Nilsens 40 beste".
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| Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5117 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 5 of 15 06 December 2010 at 12:15am | IP Logged |
hcholm, thank you very much for your help.
It's sad to hear that contemporary Norwegian music is in such a poor state. I am
interested in music itself and would like to learn more about my target language
musicians/bands. I do not like pop as a genre, it isn't even a tiny bit informative, same
is indie. I don't mind listening to Norwegian oldies and Lillebjørn Nilsen sings
accesible enough (thank you once again). I will scan the top songs lists and maybe
eventually I'll find a decent rock band.
Pozdrawiam z Wrocławia
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| Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5117 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 6 of 15 06 December 2010 at 12:23pm | IP Logged |
I have an idea :) Maybe somebody could share their favourite songs.
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| Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5117 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 7 of 15 07 December 2010 at 11:39pm | IP Logged |
I found recommendation for the following bands:
- CC Cowboys
- DumDum Boys
- Kaizers Orchestra
I hope it helps my fellow learners.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5325 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 8 of 15 08 December 2010 at 12:07am | IP Logged |
Lillebjørn Nilsen is a good suggestion. Clear, easy, and bitter sweet. Some of my favourite songs are written by him. Ole Paus is not a great singer, but his texts are good, and he usually sings quite slowly. Sidsel Kyrkjebø has a lovely voice, and her dialect (bergensk) is easy to understand.
When you get really good, you can listen to Øystein Sunde, He is fantastic, but he sings faster than most people (Norwegian people!) can listen.
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