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michau Tetraglot Groupie Norway lang-8.com/member/49 Joined 6217 days ago 86 posts - 135 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, NorwegianC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Sign Language Studies: Burmese, Toki Pona, Greenlandic
| Message 9 of 15 08 December 2010 at 12:55am | IP Logged |
You can also try Cyaneed. They come from Finnmark and their North Norwegian accent isn't very far away from standard Bokmål.
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| Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5117 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 10 of 15 08 December 2010 at 9:53am | IP Logged |
@Solfrid Cristin and michau
Thank you very much for your suggestions!
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| hcholm Heptaglot Groupie Norway Joined 6052 days ago 43 posts - 65 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Swedish, Danish, German, French, Polish Studies: Czech
| Message 11 of 15 08 December 2010 at 3:55pm | IP Logged |
Here are some of the more popular and mainstream current (more or less) rock bands who sing in Norwegian, with a short description of the music and the language they use:
DumDum Boys
Veterans, straight rock. Still popular.
From Trondheim. Sing in Bokmål with an Østlandsk (Oslo area) accent. Newer bands from Trondheim would probably not do that.
De Lillos
Veterans, naïve-ish pop rock. Quite popular.
From Oslo West. Sing in a typical "conservative" Oslo West-Bokmål, but not as conservative as traditional Riksmål.
Jokke og Valentinerne
Split up, but still popular. Rough rock with immortal lyrics.
From Oslo East. Traditional Oslo dialect, leaning towards Bokmål.
Raga Rockers
Veterans, alternative/straight rock.
Bokmål, Østlandsk accent.
CC Cowboys
Veterans, straight rock. Quite popular.
Bokmål, Østlandsk accent.
Kaizers Orchestra
Heavily inspired by Tom Waits. Popular, but a bit monotonous.
From South West Norway. Sing in dialect. Can be hard to understand, not only for learners of Norwegian.
Hellbillies
Root/country rock. More typical for NRK P1 than for NRK P3.
From Hallingdalen valley. Sing in dialect, can be hard to understand for learners.
Postgirobygget, Di Derre and Trang Fødsel
Three bands who play softer rock/pop. Bokmål with a touch of Østlandsk, like in the name "Di Derre".
Vamp
Folk inspired.
From Haugesund, dialect.
Kråkesølv
Straight rock, leaning towards roots and indie. Newcomer.
From Bodø, sing in dialect.
Many punk and new wave bands sang in Norwegian during the 80's. Look for bands like Løver og Tigre, Lumbago, The Aller Værste, Kjøtt, Stavangerensemblet, Morten Jørgensen og Spekkhoggerne and many more. A lot of it is in Bokmål, but many of those bands paved the way for the frequent use of dialect in newer rock (if it should happen to be in Norwegian, sigh). One of the greatest were De Press, but they sang in English – and Polish!
Black metal is probably Norway's biggest musical export ever, but I don't know that much about it. Lyrics are in English or Norwegian, can of course be hard to follow when sung, and the language is typically complex and a bit odd. Some die-hard fans from other countries learn Norwegian to follow the lyrics, and there are even reported cases of black metal bands from other countries who sing in Norwegian. Not for the faint at heart.
Many rap artists sing in Norwegian now. One popular group is Karpe Diem, who use Bokmål with a touch of Oslo dialect. Side Brok were famous for using a conservative dialect from West Norway. Tungtvann from Bodø also use their northern dialect, typical for recent rap artists.
There are a number of "fun" artists with quite rough humour, often with the same people in different bands. Examples are Bare Egil Band, Black Debbath and Hurra Torpedo. They usually sing in dialect or something resembling Bokmål.
Note that younger artists probably use dialect more often than the veterans. As you may have guessed, it will be difficult to limit your studies to Bokmål, but it's still the best starting point. At some point, usually rather early, you will be faced with dialects in spoken language, and you are supposed to understand them. That extends to Swedish as well, and Danish to a certain degree. In addition to the variation within each of written norms, informal eletronic communication is often in dialect. Dialects can be used in any situation. News reporters may use dialect on national TV and radio, and many top politicians are prominent dialect users. Luckily, the dialects are fairly similar, contrary to popular belief, nothing like the large divergence in many other European languages.
See http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Norske_rockegrupper for more bands.
http://nrk.no/urort/ has thousands of unsigned Norwegian artists with free download of tracks. Unfortunatley, most use English, but there are still a few who use Norwegian.
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| Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5117 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 12 of 15 13 December 2010 at 4:24pm | IP Logged |
hcholm wrote:
One of the greatest were De Press, but they sang in English – and
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Wow! Norwegian band singing in my native language :D
Thank you hcholm for sharing your vast knowledge of Norwegian music, soon I'll have
plenty of new favourite songs. I do sometimes listen to Norwegian black metal classics
and enjoy the music with lyrics unfortunately somehow integrated into one massive sound
storm.
If you needed help with your Polish feel free to ask me :)
Pozdrawiam z Wrocławia
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| hcholm Heptaglot Groupie Norway Joined 6052 days ago 43 posts - 65 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Swedish, Danish, German, French, Polish Studies: Czech
| Message 13 of 15 13 December 2010 at 8:28pm | IP Logged |
Dziękuję bardzo. A jeśli będziesz potrzebowała pomocy z norweskim, po prostu zapytaj
mnie!
Here's "Bo jo cie kochom" with De Press.
OT: I have been disappointed by the lack of dialects in Polish, but this must be some Podhale dialect?
Edited by hcholm on 13 December 2010 at 8:29pm
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| michau Tetraglot Groupie Norway lang-8.com/member/49 Joined 6217 days ago 86 posts - 135 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, NorwegianC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Sign Language Studies: Burmese, Toki Pona, Greenlandic
| Message 14 of 15 14 December 2010 at 6:56pm | IP Logged |
That's a rather known song, but I didn't know (nor most of the Poles who know the song, I bet) that the band who perform it is actually more Norwegian than Polish.
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OT: I have been disappointed by the lack of dialects in Polish, but this must be some Podhale dialect? |
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When I started with Norwegian, I was also disappointed - I used to think I was learning the language of Norway, not of few Oslo boroughs. ;)
Yes, this is a Podhale dialect (gwara góralska), but it's used differently than Norwegian dialects. It is used in public only when one wants to make an explicit stylistic effect - that's why it's overrepresented in songs from the region. But if you talk to someone in Zakopane, he'll most likely speak standard literary Polish to you, even if he speaks dialect with friends. Perhaps it's less fun, but it's at least more practical for a language learner.
Edited by michau on 14 December 2010 at 7:02pm
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5121 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 15 of 15 18 December 2010 at 5:56am | IP Logged |
Someone I've recently discovered and am really liking is Kari Bremnes.
Pretty unique music and she's very easy to understand.
R.
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