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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 9 of 40 11 April 2014 at 3:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
"You pronounce it like it’s spelled and you spell it like it’s pronounced – the way it should be" Really?! why is this nonsense repeated again and again? Of course, Russian is more phonetic than English, but it's far from having one-to-one correspondance between letters and sounds. "LOTS of Rules, But Few Exceptions" The same thing. I wonder why it is necessary to lie to convince people to learn Russian? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 10 of 40 11 April 2014 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
Because most people do not know what an awesome language it is :-) Seriously, I struggle very hard with remembering vocabulary, but I also try to 'deconstruct' the words in order to figure out what they mean and try to remember them. I think there are words I have heard 100 times before I remember what they mean, and 200 times before I can use them actively. I am so counting on Russan getting me a serious 'discount' when I go on to Polish and Ukrainian. Which I will. If I live long enough :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4716 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 11 of 40 11 April 2014 at 4:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
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White lies like those don't hurt anyone, on the contrary, it can make them more interested.
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| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4254 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 12 of 40 12 April 2014 at 11:06am | IP Logged | |||||
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Also I really find Russian wordbuilding to make sense to me in other senses as well. For example the word for "to avoid" избегать/избежать is delightfully logical; when Russians say they "avoid" something, they say "I run away from something".
I've found Russian a really pleasant learning experience thus far. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 13 of 40 12 April 2014 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, I don't think it's a lie. He's just saying that Russian makes sense to him. It's especially clear if you read the comments as well, not just the article. And any serious potential learner is going to do at least that before making a decision.
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 14 of 40 12 April 2014 at 6:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
"You pronounce it like it’s spelled and you spell it like it’s pronounced – the way it should be" about a language in which you can't read an unknown word (in general) out loud and write down a word from ear? Then he is comparing Russian plural of nouns with that of English and founds the former more regular. That's a facepalm. Instead he could write real reasons to learn Russian. For example, Russian is spoken in many parts of the former Soviet Union and many people speak it as a second language. Russian is close to an entire group of languages - Slavic languages, unlike English. Why does nobody notice that the amount of Russian native speakers is underestimated due to the ideological reasons, for example? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 15 of 40 12 April 2014 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
I could not agree with you more, apart from the last sentence which I am not sure that I understand. Do you mean that statistics are wrong when it comes to how many speak Russian as a second language, or even as a first language outside of Russia? I am very interested in knowing the correct figures. Could you expand that a bit in a thread of its own - just make sure that you stay within the facts, so that you do not get in trouble with the "no political discussions rule". It should however be possible to discuss the numbers of speakers as long as no opinion based accusations are made. Otherwise the reasons you mention are both more important and more correct than the one Benny has written. In fact it is so far out that I can hardly understand how he would even write that. My Russian teacher made the observation the other day, that Russian seems to be a language where you as far as speaking goes, are a total beginner for a very long time before you go directly to A2 without passing by A1. There are simply so many elements that you need to control before you can start to speak, that most learners keep mum until they are at a good A2 level :-) 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 16 of 40 12 April 2014 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
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At a census there is a question about the mothertongue, you have to name one. bilingual people (for example Tartar/Russian) often name Tartar. In Ukraine and Belorussia people who actually speak Russian in everyday life often say Ukrainian or Belorussian is their mothertongue. According to the last census, 75 % in Kiev are native Ukrainian speakers, but Russian is heard more often. And it is even more evident in Belorussia.
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