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Do you find russian words hard to stick ?

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Марк
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 Message 33 of 40
21 April 2014 at 8:28pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:

The main difference I see is that in Russian there's no "safe ground", no "easy stuff" to cling to. You WILL make tons of errors, so just keep calm and continue.

And what language has this "safe ground"?
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 Message 34 of 40
21 April 2014 at 10:59pm | IP Logged 
English, at least for Europeans. You can easily learn the basic sentence structure and avoid the advanced stuff. If your native language has articles, you'll make very few mistakes as soon as you've learned to add -s for 3rd person sg and for plural nouns.

Compare that to German which conjugates verbs and uses cases, and which has much less "safe ground".
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22 April 2014 at 6:22am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
 English, at least for Europeans. You can easily learn the basic sentence structure and avoid the advanced stuff. If your native language has articles, you'll make very few mistakes as soon as you've learned to add -s for 3rd person sg and for plural nouns.

j'aime le chocolad. I like chocolate. You have to think about the progressive aspect from the beginning.
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 Message 36 of 40
27 April 2014 at 4:02pm | IP Logged 
Chocolat*
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 Message 37 of 40
04 May 2014 at 8:23pm | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
Serpent wrote:
 English, at least for Europeans. You can easily learn the basic sentence
structure and avoid the advanced stuff. If your native language has articles, you'll make very few mistakes as soon
as you've learned to add -s for 3rd person sg and for plural nouns.

j'aime le chocolad. I like chocolate. You have to think about the progressive aspect from the beginning.


But one doesn't have to choose from 30 different suffixes for the progressive.
Imagine a language with no adverb for "not", no negative verb auxiliaries, and no negative inflection.
One had to memorize the negative derived form of any word to negate.
"un-,dis-,mis-,de-,anti,-less,non-,no-,in-, etc. (but there are at least 50)" that is how modern IE does it with
verbs, nouns, adjectives, and many more.

Edited by Stolan on 04 May 2014 at 8:27pm

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 Message 38 of 40
04 May 2014 at 8:35pm | IP Logged 
Nobody is forcing you to learn these languages, as far as I understand. And if you actually need/want to learn them you'd better change your attitude.
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 Message 39 of 40
05 May 2014 at 12:14am | IP Logged 
Edit: IF you don't agree provide evidence that what I said is wrong.

I compared Ingush (the hardest Caucasian mountain languages according to Johanna Nichols, a linguist who
specializes in that region), Russian, and Salishan native American languages (some of the most complex of all).
Russian is far far more irregular and bone crushingly painful than either of those two.

Edited by Stolan on 09 May 2014 at 6:52pm

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 Message 40 of 40
05 May 2014 at 12:43am | IP Logged 
I didn't agree, I just said that I'm tired of your whining about languages you don't even seem to be learning.
But thanks for removing the words "vomit-inducing" from your post.

Edited by Serpent on 05 May 2014 at 12:44am



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