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| jamesleecoleman Newbie United States Joined 4492 days ago 38 posts - 52 votes  Studies: Russian, Persian | Message 1 of 7 28 April 2014 at 3:28am | IP Logged |
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Hi there, I'm trying to get 2000 words (1800 required) so I can try to kill the B1 test (A2 first) but I'm having a difficult time trying to get the 2000 words. I already have a little over 1000 words but no where near 1500 words. I'm sure I'll have about 1200 to 1300 words when I'm done with the vocabulary lists. Am I stuck using the dictionary? I have about 360 verbs that I haven't added to the vocabulary from my 501 Russian Verb book. Should I really be hitting all of the 501 verbs from that book? I'm using Barron's Russian Vocabulary isbn13:9780764139703 to get most of the vocabulary from and I should have about 30 vocabulary lists. It's crazy how the B2 is a jump to 4500 words TKRI(TORFL) B1 http://www.torfl.org/en/content/torfl-%E2%80%93-1st-level 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| chokofingrz Pentaglot Senior Member England Joined 5194 days ago 241 posts - 430 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish | Message 2 of 7 28 April 2014 at 12:39pm | IP Logged |
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Hi, I'm at a similar point with Russian words.
Do you spend much time reading Russian texts? I know it can be hard to find them, as there's a lot you CAN'T read with 1000 words. I've been reading the texts from RussianLessons.net, which I input into Lingocracy to help with vocabulary. I also started reading Маленький принц. I think reading is the more natural way to get exposure and boost vocabulary - but I will admit that I sometimes use frequency lists too. I believe that reading texts of the right level will get you to 1500 and eventually 1800 words. I like to chop and change my input sources while maintaining a consistent system for saving words I encounter (my system is currently notebook & pen > Excel > Anki). I don't think you need to memorise the full 501 verbs, and I do agree that 4500 is a crazy number of words! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6602 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 3 of 7 28 April 2014 at 3:49pm | IP Logged |
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Have you tried GLOSS?
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| jamesleecoleman Newbie United States Joined 4492 days ago 38 posts - 52 votes Studies: Russian, Persian | Message 4 of 7 28 April 2014 at 5:12pm | IP Logged |
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So after I posted, I saw the cover of the book and it has on it, " Nearly 8,000 words and expressions..."
I felt so stupid lol but I was tired when I wrote the post. chokofingrz: I don't read a lot of Russian texts. I practice reading from a book at the A2 level. I never thought that reading could be a natural way to gaining vocabulary. I just go out and try to find words and put them in different lists. Thanks for the links. Serpent: I've looked at GLOSS but it didn't have what I was looking for at the time but I'll try it out again, thanks for reminding me about it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4258 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 5 of 7 02 May 2014 at 1:05am | IP Logged |
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Read a lot of Russian, learn the basics of Russian worldbuilding (Roots of the Russian Language...) and start deconstrucing new words and maybe put them together in cathegories of words that are of the same root or a derivative of a root and so on.
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| day1 Groupie Latvia Joined 3897 days ago 93 posts - 158 votes Speaks: English | Message 6 of 7 02 May 2014 at 9:26am | IP Logged |
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Russian Learners' Dictionary: 10,000 Russian Words in Frequency Order by Nicholas Brown This kind of frequency dictionary (or any kind of frequency dictionary) makes sense, if your favorite method of all is finding words and putting them in a list.
But reading indeed is the best way to learn words. I would recommend http://english.franklang.ru , just find the Russian section and there are two books (free!), one is 120 dialogs (pdf+mp3) and the other is short stories (also pdf+mp3). The words, it's more than just a translation. The meanings are often not so straight forward. Say, the word POWER. What's Russian for power? Could be власть, if we're talking about politics, could be степень, if we're talking about mathematics, could be электричество even, if we're talking about power cuts. Let's look at the translation степень again - what happens if we translate this word back to English? Power, right? Well, if we're talking about professors and students, it can be a degree (as in, PhD), if we're talking about processes, it can be the extent to which something is done, and several other possible meanings. So, it's not B=Б, it's more context based, when it comes to languages. B1 is already a decent, functional level. At that level basing most of your vocabulary on flashcards from a dictionary only can be a bad idea. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |
| jamesleecoleman Newbie United States Joined 4492 days ago 38 posts - 52 votes Studies: Russian, Persian | Message 7 of 7 02 May 2014 at 11:41am | IP Logged |
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Thanks for the resource day1 and thanks for the response Henkkles.
I'm glad that I don't have to out and buy the books. I hope that I can keep up the B1 level after I achieve it because I don't live near any large groups of Russian speakers. I guess I'll have a fun time writing to stay on top of things. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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