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| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4291 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 9 of 14 20 May 2014 at 9:12pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks for that suggestion, that looks like a solid book. I think that I might order
myself a coopy today from Amazon (£19.60 on UK and 25,18€ on FR). Actually there is only 1 copy left on amazon.fr, so probably within the next hour.. Edited by 1e4e6 on 20 May 2014 at 9:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 4053 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes Studies: German | Message 10 of 14 21 May 2014 at 1:34am | IP Logged |
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Hello again @1e4e6,
A bit of advice concerning the downloadable mp3 files on the publisher's website: The mp3 files are listed on the screen in numerical order as "Dossier 1, Texte 1", etcetera, along with the file name, which itself is the title or classification of the corresponding radio transmission. Seems pretty straightforward, right? Hmm, when I started the downloading process, I noticed that the downloaded file names did NOT include the prefix "Dossier 1, Texte 1" that appears on the screen and which would normally cause them to be stored on my computer in the order in which they appear in the book. Instead, the files are named as a portion of the title or classification WITHOUT a numerical identifier and, when downloaded, my computer (Windows O/S) sorted them in alphabetical order. To correct the problem (which appears to be nothing more than a minor oversight on the part of the publisher) I RENAMED the individual files in the SAVE window as "Dossier 01, Texte 1" during the downloading process and they were stored in the order in which they appear in the book ... whew! Take careful note of the “0” that I inserted in the first nine file numbers (number 1 becomes 01, number 2 becomes 02). I did this to compensate for the software that is loaded into my Sony mp3 player, which tends to sort numbered files as: 1,11, 2,21, 3, 31. This small change in the inital file numbers gives my mp3 player a chance to sort the files as 01, 02, 03, ... 10, 11, etcetera. Bonne chance! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4291 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 11 of 14 21 May 2014 at 3:06am | IP Logged |
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Actually I could just open them from clicking the links on the audio list of the book
listing--how did you place teh files into a mp3 player? I have iTunes since I have an iPod, but I am unsure how to place them into that programme. I bought the book from the shop link itself, so I am unsure when I shall receive it, but I still have at least a week left of the last bit of the Assimil Dutch. What exactly is in the book? Do the exercises include written and reading in addition to the listening? Edited by 1e4e6 on 21 May 2014 at 4:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 4053 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes Studies: German | Message 12 of 14 21 May 2014 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
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PART I – NÉERLANDAIS AVANCÉ -- CONTENTS
The essential goal of this book is to help the student increase his/her ability in aural comprehension. The book is divided into 12 chapters that cover a variety of themes: environment, workplace, freedom of the press, cultural identities, etcetera. Each chapter presents two authentic radio transmissions, texts from the written media, a summarized glossary, explanations of grammatical points, and exercises based on the material. Transcriptions of the radio transmissions are provided in the appendix. PART II – NÉERLANDAIS AVANCÉ -- A BRIDGE TOO FAR? The authors advise that this work operates at the CEFR B2/C1 level and that the target audience would be students operating at a more advanced level of instruction, either in a classroom setting or as independent learners. This leads me to believe that, if your only exposure to the language is Assimil Néerlandais sans peine, then working with Néerlandais avancé on your own would represent a serious challenge, so much so that attempting this book immediately afterwards might actually discourage you. I suggest that you prepare yourself additionally by completing any of the following beforehand: (a) DLI Refresher Dutch, (b) Linguaphone Dutch, (c) Assimil La Pratique du Néerlandais (used copies are available on Amazon). PART III - DOWNLOADING INDIVIDUAL MP3 FILES My operating system is "Windows Vista" and, in my experience, their version of the Windows Media Player is totally unreliable, to the point that I ceased using it a few years ago. So, rather than work with the Media Player, I download files directly onto my computer using Windows functions, as follows: Steps: Select the file by "right-clicking" on it with your cursor (Windows will open a small list of options). Select "Save target as..." (see comments below) Select "Save" (see comments below) Comments on Steps: Windows Explorer will display a small window entitled "Save As" and will suggest a file folder in which you can save the file. Windows often suggests the "Downloads" file on your Desktop, but you can change this to some other file folder, if you wish. Windows will also suggest a file name (often the original name of the file that you are downloading, which you can change, as I did in the case of the Néerlandais avancé file names). Windows Explorer will open a small rectangle at the bottom of the screen, advising you which file is be being downloaded, including the progress (example: 56% complete). Repeat the process until you have downloaded all of the files. PART IV - DOWNLOADING MULTIPLE MP3 FILES: As far as I understand, Windows does not permit the downloading of multiple files. Apparently, some systems (FireFox) permit this; however, I don't how to do this. PART V – MANAGING MP3 FILES I suspect that the iPod has more features than the Sony Walkman. Thus, you might be able to work with iTunes without intervening as I do. Nonetheless, since the downloadable MP3 files for Néerlandais avancé seem to be missing a numbering system that would otherwise force them to be sequenced in the same order as they appear in the textbook, I suspect that even Apple will not know what the proper sequence is and that you will have to intervene and create a system yourself. I did this during the downloading/SAVE step wherein I changed the FILENAMES to “Dossier 01, Texte 1”, etcetera. I simply store my MP3 files in folders on my computer and transfer them “manually” to my Sony Walkman either by a “drag and drop” or “copy and paste” procedure. Before transferring my files, I often modify the names of the folders, artists, album, genre, title, etcetera of the original file. This helps me locate the (numerous) language courses that are stored on my Sony Walkman. I do this by simply “right-clicking” on the file (or group of files), select “Properties”, and by filling in the fields of the “Details” table. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4291 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 13 of 14 22 May 2014 at 12:11am | IP Logged |
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The Assimil Dutch with Ease is not my first experience with Dutch, actually I started
this in 2008 during summer break during my undergraduate years, but finished only slightly more than half. Right now I aim to finish the entire thing, but still before this book, I did more than half of Routledge Dutch Intensive Course, Klare Taal: Grammatica A1-A2, Routledge Dutch: An Essential Grammar, Routledge Intermediate Dutch: A Grammar and Workbook. I also have continuously watched Dutch programmes from Uitzending Gemist and BNN, and listen to NOS Radio daily, and some stupid programmes like this. I also read books like id=azcLAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=dezer+dezen&source=bl&ot s=X6jfc9wPWp&sig=UkFDeg- 2QxLsB- cqqmKLn2H2CWM&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=aetdU8CuHYiayATk0IGgAQ&ved=0CHAQ 6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=dezer%20 dezen&f=false">A Grammar of the Dutch Language, which might be slightly old, as it was published in the 19th Century and discusses almost 100 pages on cases and noun inflections. I actually ordered directly from the site, but I have yet not been e-mailed a tracking number. And I probably would try DLI first, although I looked at the excerpt of the book and it seems fine, in terms of how I could read it. I need more work on aural and speaking though. Edited by 1e4e6 on 22 May 2014 at 3:37am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4291 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 14 of 14 07 June 2014 at 2:30am | IP Logged |
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I received the book several days ago, and I quite like it; the content, the physical
bindind and cover, etc., but right now I go through the DLI course. The exercises of the latter with the mock conversation is quite strange since it requires one to memorise the entire conversation, which lasts longer than one page. I can barely do this even for the English translation since the topics are not very common, but I try to use it more like an Assimil course. It also has some rather odd vocabulary, such as "ravine" and "lieutenant" and such, but I suppose that this is normal since it is from the DLI. Thereafter I can use the Presse Radio book. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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