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| samfrances Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4053 days ago 81 posts - 110 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 6 29 May 2014 at 11:48am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi
I've been dabbling a bit in Latin. For the present active, many textbooks talk in terms of the "personal endings", which are useful for various tenses/aspects: –ō / –m -s -t -mus -tis -nt However, one textbook notes that the ō/m, -t and -nt endings are always preceded by short vowels. Has anyone conceptualised the personal endings a follows, to take this into account? –˘ō / –˘m -s -˘t -mus -tis -˘nt Would any more experienced Latin learners see any disadvantages to this approach? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 2 of 6 29 May 2014 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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There is no need to do that because the shortness of vowels in certain positions is phonetically predetermined. A vowel followed another vowel, any consonant but s at the end of a polysyllabic word and nt and nd is always short. There are just a few exceptions to the first rule (like unius or diei, where i and e are long). Edited by Марк on 29 May 2014 at 12:03pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| samfrances Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4053 days ago 81 posts - 110 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 3 of 6 29 May 2014 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ah, ok, my textbook didn't tell me that. Thanks.
Can you recommend a textbook that does include useful phonetic information like that? Edited by samfrances on 29 May 2014 at 12:17pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Astrophel Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5733 days ago 157 posts - 345 votes Speaks: English*, Latin, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Cantonese, Polish, Sanskrit, Cherokee | Message 4 of 6 01 June 2014 at 8:10am | IP Logged | ||
Gildersleeve's Latin Grammar. A textbook probably won't have that level of detailed phonetic information, and you're better off consulting a reference grammar. There are many, but Gildersleeve's is particularly good for phonetics. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| samfrances Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4053 days ago 81 posts - 110 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 5 of 6 01 June 2014 at 9:40am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks Astrophel, I'll take a look at Gildersleeve's.
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| AlexTG Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 4639 days ago 178 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 6 of 6 01 June 2014 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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And if you want to get really detailed there's "Vox Latina: A Guide to the Pronunciation of Classical Latin".
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