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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4712 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
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Martien wrote:
Hungringo wrote:
If you pronounce "a" as in German or many other
European languages,
people will think you are a village-boy from the North-East, if you pronounce "a" as if
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Also an interesting point. If
I feel that I cannot master the difference between these sounds, the second best option
is to be understood. When I am helping foreigners out with learning Dutch I often teach
them a similar trick. In Dutch we have ch, a voiceless guttural sound like in Scottish
"loch" and Spanish "Juan". "G" is its voiced counterpart, (somewhat like modern Greek
gamma) in some regions of Holland it is pronounced voiceless but it is never
pronounced like "g" in "good". So I often recommend non native speakers who cannot
master the voiced variant that they should use "ch" rather than "g" in good. If "goede
morgen" (good morning) is pronounced like good-ah-Morrgan the speaker will be
identified as a foreigner, if he says chood-ah-Morr-chen he still could be identified
as a native speaker from Amsterdam or The Hague, although it will be clear he is not
from Eindhoven.
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That's because in Eindhoven ch is often even palatal and not velar. I rarely hear
people pronounce Dutch g as the Greek gamma (you can, it's not wrong), but basically
everyone above the rivers merges it with /x/ nowadays. And everything below the rivers
is barely even guttural in my view.
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