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| mike789 Newbie United States Joined 6328 days ago 39 posts - 51 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 1 of 14 04 July 2014 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I stumbled across this free program that seems based around spaced repetition for learning. I know about Anki and use it for things I already know, but to me the spacing algorithm in Anki seemed more geared towards making sure you remember things you already know than things you are learning right now but don't know yet. Maybe there's a better way to use Anki, but for me the times between retests on Anki are too long for things I am just learning. Maybe I don't have the best settings.
Anyway, since there is a fair amount of discussion around Anki I was surprised that a text search on this forum didn't find anything about Memrise. Memrise seems like a PC-based version of Pimsleur where you are quizzed after a few seconds, then a slightly longer period, etc. Is anyone else using Memrise or have suggestions on how to best use it? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4255 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish | Message 2 of 14 04 July 2014 at 9:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think quite a few people here use memrise. I've used it a bit and liked it, but ultimately decided to stick with Anki.
If you ever decide to give Anki another try the custom study tool can be a useful way to make newly learned content stick better. I especially like using the review forgotten cards option at some point later in the day from when I did my main review. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4235 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 3 of 14 05 July 2014 at 1:11am | IP Logged | ||
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I think Anki is super boring and useful only if you are motivated enough to create your own dictionary,
because using card packs there is even more boring. Memrise has its system, you can look at others and find out how much do you practice comparing to them. And memes are great! If it's hard to create associations on your own, you can get other people's ones. And sometimes these associations are just awesome and get into your memory really fast. For example: 
Using umlauts as money - definitely not what I would thought about if I were trying to make a difference between these two words :) usually I end up mixing these things up everywhere, but with these two I at least know how to control myself. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4145 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 4 of 14 05 July 2014 at 2:24am | IP Logged | ||
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I liked memrise, but my husband (and people commenting on the courses) found several errors in the tagalog
courses. From what I can tell, all of the courses were created by tagalog-learners, which isn't ideal. Also, I didn't like the focus on typing out words. Even though memrise is much more *fun*, in the end I decided that anki was more effective for my current needs. But Memrise was a great way for me to get a first taste in Tagalog! I wrote about it several times at the beginning of my Tagalog language log, and - if I recall correctly - had mostly good things to say! Edited by Stelle on 05 July 2014 at 2:37am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| PianoFish Newbie United Kingdom Joined 3810 days ago 11 posts - 28 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 5 of 14 06 July 2014 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've used Memrise a lot over the past couple of years, I especially like the typing because I find I learn words better when I have written them down. There can be errors in some courses but they're generally very good and many have audio. You can also skip over words in a course (list) if you've already done them in another course so you don't end up with duplicates, I don't know if Anki has that feature.
Part of my preference is aesthetic, the Anki interface is dull and sparse whereas the Memrise interface is colourful and engaging. I know that's a very superficial reason but it means I enjoy using Memrise more so I'm more inclined to do so. The mems feature is probably the main reason I keep going back to it, there are lots of suggestions with both text and images like the one Via Diva posted and you can add your own too. I'm not sure exactly how the spaced repetition algorithm is calculated but my success in reviews is generally over 90%. Edited by PianoFish on 06 July 2014 at 5:36pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5784 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 6 of 14 10 July 2014 at 1:40pm | IP Logged | ||
I know what you mean about the aesthetics of it. If you're going to spend 20 to 40 minutes a day in front of an srs (and if you're serious, you easily might), a pleasant interface makes it a lot less annoying. Thing about Anki is, knowing that community, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find someone had created some sort of addon to make the interface more pleasant to look at. Did you know ypu can do typing tests on Anki too. The great thing is that, because you still have to rate your answer, typos don't screw with your timing like they do in memrise. Also, if something is really easy, you can let Anki know and it'll adjust the review times for that item accordingly.; Memrise only knows whether you got it right or wrong. For me, Anki is much better than Memrise for reviewing and not forgetting. Where Memrise scores over Anki is in combining the learning phase with the remembering phase in one place. Anki's reall all about review, it's not designed for actualy learning items in the first place. In the normal settings you get the item once, then again after 10 minutes, then the next day.... Memrise has (as has been noted) the mems, it also initially gives you items a large number of times in a variety of ways, then 4 hours later....so it can be used to learn the items in the first place. For thes reasons I still use both Anki and Memrise. With several courses I went through the course once on memrise and then switched to Anki. Off topic, the verb zählen comes with its own ready-made mnemonic as it's a cognate of the English verb "to tell" (as in "there 5 ways to do it, all told" or bank tellers). It's also cognate with English "to tell" in the sense of a story, German just adds a prefix for that meaning (as is its wont) giving "erzählen". Edited by Random review on 10 July 2014 at 1:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| yogert909 Newbie United States jonkenpo.net Joined 3793 days ago 5 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 7 of 14 11 July 2014 at 12:15am | IP Logged | ||
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I have used both memrise and anki but I prefer anki. They both seem to do pretty much the same thing - though
little differently. However, I believe anki is a lot more customizable. So if there is anything you don't like about the way you are studying, you can change it. Anki makes it easy to import from spreadsheets and anki users have created awesome plugins like subs2srs that makes it easy for self learners to create their own decks. As far as memrise, I believe if you want to change the format or order of the material or add material, you would have to create your own course. Reasonable people can argue about anki's interface, but I consider the clean interface a bonus. I prefer to only have the information I'm studying displayed and nothing else. I also felt a little like memrise was treating me like a child with the whole planting and watering metaphor, but that's just me. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 8 of 14 11 July 2014 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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I use Anki and Memrise and I prefer Memrise. There's audio, there are levels, there are memes. Interactivity. It's much more complete than Anki. The courses seem nicer and of greater variety, too. I don't do my own decks for Anki, so it's the range of courses available that make the difference to me.
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