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evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4007 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 9 of 14 11 July 2014 at 8:18pm | IP Logged |
I use both, but I prefer Memrise due to the focus on learning up front. Anki is quite
flexible and I'm always tempted to cheat and hit good even if I don't really know it.
Memrise is rigid and sometimes wrong, but it sticks. The mems and community are also
quite helpful. Getting terms into a course is clunky, but luckily I'm never wanting for
good courses.
Anki is better for sentences, because I usually do not have time in memrise to nail the
accents and spelling. Grammar points and example sentences here. If I just can't remember
something, I'll kick it over to memrise.
Quizlet is also quite good, but I use it exclusively for chinese vocab and sentences from
my tutor. Space Race is intense!
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| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5784 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German
| Message 10 of 14 11 July 2014 at 11:45pm | IP Logged |
Expugnator wrote:
I use Anki and Memrise and I prefer Memrise. There's audio, there are levels, there
are memes. Interactivity. It's much more complete than Anki. The courses seem nicer and of greater
variety, too. I don't do my own decks for Anki, so it's the range of courses available that make the
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I'd say the opposite! You can add audio to Anki decks, you can change the deck to do typing tests, you can
do cloze deletion tests (no way to do that on memrise) and in general Anki gives you many more tools.
You also mention the courses on Memrise, any Memrise course can quickly and easily be imported into
Anki; importing Anki decks into Memrise is a bit more fiddly IMO.
As I say, I honestly believe the only area where Memrise scores higher than Ankis is in combining the
learning phase with the review phase (due to the mems and to the "planting sessions"); when it comes to
review, I'd go for Anki every time.
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| rebel dragon Newbie United States sevenlanguagenati Joined 3854 days ago 20 posts - 23 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Danish
| Message 11 of 14 12 July 2014 at 4:34am | IP Logged |
I've only used Memrise. I really like it and see no reason to switch. I've been using it since January.
I like the access to premade courses, and the community there is usually quite helpful.
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| Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5982 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish*
| Message 12 of 14 27 July 2014 at 3:26pm | IP Logged |
mike789 wrote:
I stumbled across this free program that seems based around spaced repetition for learning. I know about Anki and use it for things I already know, but to me the spacing algorithm in Anki seemed more geared towards making sure you remember things you already know than things you are learning right now but don't know yet. Maybe there's a better way to use Anki, but for me the times between retests on Anki are too long for things I am just learning. Maybe I don't have the best settings.
Anyway, since there is a fair amount of discussion around Anki I was surprised that a text search on this forum didn't find anything about Memrise. Memrise seems like a PC-based version of Pimsleur where you are quizzed after a few seconds, then a slightly longer period, etc.
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I don't think there's much to be 'learned' about a vocabulary item or an expression. You see it for the first time, say ah, and then it's just a tug of war between forgetting and remembering. If you need a lot of 'learning' reviews within the first hours/days, especially with a related language like French, maybe it's a symptom that you're not familiar enough with the sound system of your TL, the spelling, syntax or whatever basis stuff that you should be addressing before doing SRS. Or maybe you are trying to learn random words that you haven't seen in any real context. That would be hard to remember even to intermediate learners.
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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4048 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 13 of 14 05 August 2014 at 11:59am | IP Logged |
I used them both, for months.
BeforeAnki only, then Memrise only.
I came to the conclusion that are useful in different moments.
If I would start a new language from scratch today, I would do the following:
- look for a top 500 frenquent words course in memrise
- study them in a week
- reviewing them a second week
- then start with a course or two (duolingo / babbel, duolingo / teach yourself, babbel
/ assimil, assimil / teach yourself, etc) and solely reviewing the words until I score
almost perfect most of the times
- then stop using memrise and start with creating my deck in anki, adding sentences
which I partially understand except one or two words (but not the ones from the
courses,
unless I have huge problems retaining some sentence). I started to put sentences coming
from articles, news, emails, real world stuff. With Memrise this would be a nightmare.
Edited by tristano on 05 August 2014 at 12:04pm
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| Mutant Groupie United States Joined 3912 days ago 45 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German
| Message 14 of 14 07 August 2014 at 1:19pm | IP Logged |
I use both. I stared out only using Anki, and when I started learning Esperanto I had a look at Memrise and found it very fun and very addictive. So now I use both, and I've gotten a friend of mine who is learning German hooked on Memrise as well!
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