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patrickwilken
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 Message 25 of 144
11 December 2014 at 5:08pm | IP Logged 
beano wrote:

I find it hard to believe that one in every three or four people are functionally illiterate. Sure, there will always be a minority who struggle with basic reading and writing but I would have put it at less than 10%


Yes. It is hard to believe, but that's what I believe are fairly careful studies suggest.

Being functionally illiterate doesn't necessarily mean you can't write at all, I think within the US it's defined as having a reading ability of an 8th grader.
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an infamous thread about the average Joe
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11 December 2014 at 6:31pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
an infamous thread about the average Joe


Thanks. Quite enlightening!
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 Message 28 of 144
11 December 2014 at 7:42pm | IP Logged 
patrickwilken wrote:
beano wrote:

I find it hard to believe that one in every three or four people are functionally illiterate. Sure, there will always
be a minority who struggle with basic reading and writing but I would have put it at less than 10%


Yes. It is hard to believe, but that's what I believe are fairly careful studies suggest.

Being functionally illiterate doesn't necessarily mean you can't write at all, I think within the US it's defined as
having a reading ability of an 8th grader.


Wow, that's scary to think how many people have no appetite for reading. My grandad left school at 13 to
work in the coal industry, yet he devoured newspapers and books all his days. When you think of the
opportunities kids get nowadays. Are we sliding backwards?
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patrickwilken
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 Message 29 of 144
11 December 2014 at 8:11pm | IP Logged 
beano wrote:

Wow, that's scary to think how many people have no appetite for reading. My grandad left school at 13 to
work in the coal industry, yet he devoured newspapers and books all his days. When you think of the
opportunities kids get nowadays. Are we sliding backwards?


My great-great-great-grandmother signed her marriage certificate in the goldfields of Australia with an X. :)

As illiteracy is strongly correlated with poverty, if we are sliding backwards in the West it is because the poorest segments of society are expanding.



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Mind you, in the days when there was mass illiteracy among the poor there must still have been people who
were very creative and insightful in oral delivery of language.
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Yes. We call them bards :)
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 Message 32 of 144
11 December 2014 at 11:48pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
an infamous thread about the average Joe

Ah, the times, they have not changed.



As for the original question:
Possible? Yes. Likely? No, unless you already have the experience of having reached C1 or above in a foreign language and know what you're doing.


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