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Alkeides
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01 October 2008 at 6:26am | IP Logged 
わざとしてんの?
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Cisa
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 Message 10 of 17
01 October 2008 at 6:34am | IP Logged 
In a book I´ve read Hirohito knew about 30,000 characters, that´s quite impressive! ;) But I have no info whether he was the one to know the most.
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 Message 11 of 17
02 October 2008 at 11:26pm | IP Logged 
Cisa wrote:
In a book I´ve read Hirohito knew about 30,000 characters, that´s quite impressive! ;) But I have no info whether he was the one to know the most.


What was the book ?
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Jlin
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 Message 12 of 17
06 October 2008 at 3:41am | IP Logged 
Number of characters in Chinese dictionaries (Wikipedia)

Published Year   Name of Dictionary     Number of Characters

100              Shuowen Jiezi         & nbsp; 9,353
543              Yupian                      12,158
601              Qieyun                      16,917
1011              Guangyun               26,194
1039              Jiyun                      53,525
1615              Zihui                      33,179
1716              Kangxi Zidian               47,035
1916              Zhonghua Da Zidian      48,000
1989              Hanyu Da Zidian               54,678
1994              Zhonghua Zihai               85,568


According to one research, that base on the education level in Taiwan, characters known by students. This is not the whole data, but the shorter version.

Elementary 1st grade, around 750 characters
Elementary 2nd grade, around 1300 characters
Elementary 3rd grade, around 2200 characters
Elementary 4th grade, around 2750 characters
Elementary 5th grade, around 3200 characters
Elementary 6th grade, around 3600 characters
Secondary 1st grade, around 3700 characters
Secondary 2nd grade, around 3750 characters
Secondary 3rd grade, around 3800 characters

That according to my understanding, that Chinese have around 85000 writing characters, it is not the precise numbers, just characters that appeared through out the history. It is not that much of difference between simplified Chinese and traditional Chinese in the quantities, because these two can be converted one to another easily.

Some of those characters already vanished in daily use, but some of them still exist in people’s name, city names, or old scripts.

However, it is not necessary to know them all, because if you know 1000 most common Chinese characters, then you can read 92% of the common written materials (newspapers, magazines, and novels), 2000 characters for 98%, and 3000 characters for 99%.

For a native speaker and highly educated, approximately to know around 6000~8000 characters (In Taiwan, which uses Traditional Chinese characters, the Ministry of Education lists 4,808 commonly use characters; Less-Than-Common National Characters lists another 6,341 characters).

In my opinion, for most of the Chinese-speaking people, that learning new characters is about the same excitement of learning new words in English for English speaker. In western countries that people enjoy playing scrabble, in Taiwan, that we also enjoying knowing new characters by playing it out with difficult unknown characters.

Therefore, to answer your post that person who know the most characters, maybe there is no data according to that, so I just give you some reference about how many characters that we usually know. Because it is not a very common to have such contests in Taiwan or China, but I think in Japan, they do have that kind of games or competition, and they even have certificates for that.




Edited by Jlin on 06 October 2008 at 3:45am

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Cisa
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 Message 15 of 17
07 October 2008 at 10:20am | IP Logged 
pitwo wrote:
Cisa wrote:
In a book I´ve read Hirohito knew about 30,000 characters, that´s quite impressive! ;) But I have no info whether he was the one to know the most.


What was the book ?


Ooh... It was written by a German guy... hmhm Hans Kirchmann or somebody with a similar name. Sorry, I can´t remember it exactly.

Edited by Cisa on 07 October 2008 at 10:21am

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Alkeides
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 Message 16 of 17
10 October 2008 at 2:08am | IP Logged 
Jlin wrote:

Therefore, to answer your post that person who know the most characters, maybe there is no data according to that, so I just give you some reference about how many characters that we usually know. Because it is not a very common to have such contests in Taiwan or China, but I think in Japan, they do have that kind of games or competition, and they even have certificates for that.



Ah yes. The 日本漢字能力検定試験.


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