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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6443 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 17 of 52 08 April 2009 at 11:28am | IP Logged | ||
No, I won't read your blog. Please let this attempt at PR via coining a new word die a peaceful and quiet death; it's failed. Hyperbole about "the end of critical thinking" doesn't help either. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| danbloom Groupie Antarctica zippy1300.blogspot.c Joined 5753 days ago 42 posts - 42 votes | Message 18 of 52 08 April 2009 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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Guesto wrote: "Reading online may be rather different to reading a book, but why on [E]arth would we need a new word for it? There have been thousands of different kinds of reading since long before the internet and it wasn't necessary then, so why now? For example, reading Shakespeare and reading the word STOP written on a signpost require vastly different levels of intellectual effort, and yet in both cases the action describing what you're doing is still "reading". What's wrong with "reading online"?
....Besides, it's rather subjective isn't it? I for one read online with the same intensity as on paper." DEA GUESTO: Good post and good points. I agree. There is nothing WRONG with the term "reading online". And maybe that term is perfect and no new word is needed. I see your point. Then again, maybe a new word will grow on us over the next 25 years. I am just saying, maybe... I am perfectly happy with ''reading online''. But something like SCREENING might replace that in some future time frame. And I don't really like SCREENING that much, even though i coined it for this situation. Any other, better words out there? Do suggest or comment.... I have an open mind and this is not PR dear Volte. Some people ! Next Volte is going to accuse me of using this forum for a viral marketing effort for my new book. Egads, people are so paranoid these days, even in Switzerland...... why? Can we have an honest discussion here? Edited by danbloom on 08 April 2009 at 12:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| danbloom Groupie Antarctica zippy1300.blogspot.c Joined 5753 days ago 42 posts - 42 votes | Message 19 of 52 08 April 2009 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | ||
Volte, sir.........you do not have to read my blog. It's just a blog, ne worry pas. And it's not PR, how in the world can you construe all this as PR? PR for what? Look, Volte, you might not agree with my train of thought here, but don't derail the train. If you want to get off at the next stop, by all means get off. But jeez, don't accuse me of PR-making here. What have you been smoking over there in Berne? I value your comments, and I wish you would value mine. I am not selling anything, sir. This is not a viral marketing effort for my next book. I don't even write books. I am a freelance reporter in Asia. Far far away from the paranoid West.......SIGH 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Juan M. Senior Member Colombia Joined 5903 days ago 460 posts - 597 votes | Message 20 of 52 08 April 2009 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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Is Google Making Us Stupid?
I do believe our subjective faculties are suffering as a result of a misuse of technology, and that shriveled forms of culture are displacing and replacing far richer and more vibrant ones. Reading would be the paramount instance of this. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| danbloom Groupie Antarctica zippy1300.blogspot.c Joined 5753 days ago 42 posts - 42 votes | Message 21 of 52 09 April 2009 at 4:43am | IP Logged | ||
JuanM, good point. That is what I am driving at. That when we read solely online, on screens, if it ever comes to that, and paper reading disappears almost entirely, the younger generations then will have lost much of their subjective faculties of analysis and critical thinking and embedding of knowledge, and some weird and very shriveled form of culture will rule the world. So the need, maybe, for a new word to describe the differences between reading on paper, the closeness of it all, the feelings, the deep understanding and analysis, and reading on a screen, which is reading for sure, but a lesser kind of reading -- which maybe needs a new name. JuanM, good post! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| danbloom Groupie Antarctica zippy1300.blogspot.c Joined 5753 days ago 42 posts - 42 votes | Message 22 of 52 14 April 2009 at 5:50am | IP Logged | ||
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A reporter for the New York Times tells me today: "Well, "screening" already has another meaning.... "Surfing" sort of works but it suggests a certain inattention. I like "diging" - (pronounced "dijing") -- as in digital, except people might end up saying "digging," Hmmm ...."
-- Sent to Danny Bloom from his Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Yukamina Senior Member Canada Joined 6268 days ago 281 posts - 332 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean, French | Message 23 of 52 15 April 2009 at 3:00am | IP Logged | ||
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I think it's the content that makes the difference in the way we read, not whether it's on a screen or on paper. The internet tends to be full of the kind of content that we "screen". There's so much out there to read, and most of it is garbage that we have to sift through. When I read forums, I'm usually just looking for something interesting or useful. I'm not going to concentrate heavily on every post or link I come across, or I'd never have any time for anything else. But if I find something I DO want to read properly, then I will. When I pick up a book to read, it's usually a subject I'm interested in and intend to read all the way through. But that's just circumstance, not because paper makes my mind change states. If I pick up book that only contains bits and pieces of what I want to read, then I will end up "screening" that too.
I don't think we need a new term for reading online. If only a few people think reading online needs a new word, it's not going to become widespread. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| danbloom Groupie Antarctica zippy1300.blogspot.c Joined 5753 days ago 42 posts - 42 votes | Message 24 of 52 15 April 2009 at 5:25am | IP Logged | ||
Good points, sir! Whether a new word emerges is up to the future, if it happens, it will happen....if not, it won't....BUT i feel a new word will arise soon, don't know what the word will be, but am convinced we need a new word to differentiate the two reading experiecnes....yes, they are both reading...but they are slowly diverging..... TODAY NEWs from CNN Errol Barnett describes new study about how morality is going down the drain due to instant info onnline.....did you read that? i will give link here....the news is catching up with my ideas right now and today. see this: 1 person has voted this message useful |
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