jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6909 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 17 11 April 2012 at 7:55pm | IP Logged |
British English might be the norm, but hardly any kid will adopt it since the major part of the popular media is American. As simple as that. Of all my classmates over the years, I think only a handful have spoken non-rhotic English.
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napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5016 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 10 of 17 11 April 2012 at 8:15pm | IP Logged |
In India, there is a marked change in preference from British English to American English, especially among the new generation.
The academia remains streadfast as one of the last bastions of British English in India.
In fact, my teacher even advised me to choose RP as a model over General American if I really wanted to improve my pronunciation. :)
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COF Senior Member United States Joined 5831 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 11 of 17 12 April 2012 at 11:47am | IP Logged |
That's probably founded in the increasing anti-British sentiment in India rather than any practical reason.
In fact, considering the largest Indian diaspora is in the UK, and many Indians have relatives in the UK, and study in the UK, it probably makes a lot more sense to stick with British English.
But recently the Indian government has become frankly hostile in its attitude towards the UK, so the move towards American English does not suprise me.
Edited by COF on 12 April 2012 at 11:50am
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Bruno87 Diglot Groupie Argentina Joined 4382 days ago 49 posts - 72 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: German, Portuguese
| Message 12 of 17 18 December 2012 at 12:53am | IP Logged |
COF wrote:
The situation with British and American English is kinda the same as what has happened to
European Spanish and European Portuguese. People don't want to learn the Iberian dialects
anymore, they want to speak Latin American Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese.
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I doubt if such Latin American Spanish exists. Actually I know Mexican Spanish dialect
which is diferent from Colombian Spanish which is quite diferent from Argentinian Spanish
and so...
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Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5981 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish*
| Message 13 of 17 18 December 2012 at 1:30pm | IP Logged |
COF wrote:
Which one is most popular these days with second language learners? From what I've read, I get the general impression that British English has fallen out of favour somewhat and people see American English as easier to pronounce, slightly easier to learn and a generally more desirable dialect to be able to speak.
The situation with British and American English is kinda the same as what has happened to European Spanish and European Portuguese. People don't want to learn the Iberian dialects anymore, they want to speak Latin American Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese.
Interestingly, this has not happened to French though. Parisian French is still regarded as the only dialect a learner should be interested in, and all other dialects are regarded as inferior bastardisations. |
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In Spain I would say that British English is the norm and I can't see that changing any time soon. Not that there would be much point either, I think. All the media stuff is dubbed here anyway, so the sound of American English is pretty much unknown for the whole population. On top of that Brits form the third contingent of foreigners here in Spain and British English is the most common version of English in Europe.
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 14 of 17 18 December 2012 at 2:57pm | IP Logged |
I spoke Argentinian Spanish while in Spain, since I didn't understand their attempt at English. The Spanish speak Spanish English, not British English. ;)
Edited by Medulin on 18 December 2012 at 2:57pm
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Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5981 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish*
| Message 15 of 17 18 December 2012 at 3:28pm | IP Logged |
Medulin wrote:
I spoke Argentinian Spanish while in Spain, since I didn't understand their attempt at English. The Spanish speak Spanish English, not British English. ;) |
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Don't worry, your "Argentinian" Spanish is probably rubbish too.
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 16 of 17 18 December 2012 at 7:18pm | IP Logged |
Javi wrote:
Don't worry, your "Argentinian" Spanish is probably rubbish too. ;) |
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¡Mirá quien habla. ¡El guapo de barrio!
¡Me pillo de la risa!
Edited by Medulin on 18 December 2012 at 7:22pm
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