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| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5922 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 57 of 62 24 May 2009 at 2:33am | IP Logged | ||
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One used in Cuba for 'refridgerator' is 'frizmaster' or 'frigidaire' for refrigerator, according to my dad. I can't remember the brand name exactly, but it came from a brand of refrigerator used in Cuba at that time, though 'refrigerador' was not uncommon, either. Similarly, 'pulover' was used for shirt and 'keik' for cake, though those aren't false anglicisms.
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| Monitor16807 Diglot Newbie Canada Joined 5692 days ago 21 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English, French* Studies: German, Latin | Message 58 of 62 24 May 2009 at 10:54pm | IP Logged | ||
I'm French an I've been to Quebec, and I'd like to correct you on few things. C'est le fun, This actually mean it's fun, I don't know how you got the confusion. Your last three example are French words, remember English borrowed a lot of words from French. People in Quebec don't say "Faire le stop" they say "Faire le Pouce", which would mean "Make the thumb" They don't say "Faire du parking" they say "se parké". Shampoing is a French word, note it's not even pronounced like the English "ing" but the French "in". Pull is not used in Quebec, again where are you getting this from? And pull comes from the French word pull-over, which again is not pronounced like its English equivalent. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| oz-hestekræfte Senior Member Australia Joined 5678 days ago 103 posts - 117 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish | Message 59 of 62 25 May 2009 at 5:42am | IP Logged | ||
Nothing. I use this word sometimes. If I'm in a silly mood. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| RBenham Triglot Groupie IndonesiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5643 days ago 60 posts - 62 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Indonesian | Message 60 of 62 24 June 2009 at 4:18am | IP Logged | ||
I am not sure what your point is. Just because a word was borrowed a long time ago and become naturalized, it doesn't really mean that it is not an aglicism. There is no doubt that shampooing or shampooing is a borrowing from English, see, e.g. this dictionary entry. A few contributions of my own: (Indonesian): hard-boiled egg: Years ago, when I was having breakfast in my hotel with an Indonesian lady, she asked the waiter for a "hard-boiled egg" (naturally, they were speaking Indonesian), and got a soft-boiled egg and seemed perfectly satisfied with this. cleaning service: I have heard this used, in Indonesian, for just "clean" or "cleaning". lucky: This seems to be used specifically in the sense of "successful financially", rather than just "lucky". (German): Mobbing for something like "collective bullying". This meaning seems to be creeping into English, but somewhat belatedly. I have been told the term was introduced, in English, in an article by a Swedish psychologist. However, the tradtional use in English is that, say a pop star is "mobbed" by adoring fans. (French): recordman I haven't heard this for a while, but back in the 1980s, I remember a French magazine describing Australian unionists as recordmen du monde en jours de grève. sweatshirt: Well, the pronunciation is more the joke with this one. They pronounce it sweetshirt, and I have even seen the written contraction sweet. There is, of course, a special relationship between French and English. They have been pinching words from one another for centuries. For example, the English word redingote is borrowed from French, which got it from English riding-coat. Tracing the etymology further back, we see that ride is Germanic, but coat is from Anglo-French (according to M-W), although ultimately of Germanic origin. Similarly, the expression prêt-à-porter has been borrowed from French, where it was created as a calque on English ready-to-wear. So it could be regarded as a "false Gallicism", one of many, of course. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| pitwo Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6159 days ago 103 posts - 121 votes Speaks: French*, English | Message 61 of 62 04 July 2009 at 3:07am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi.
A fun one in quebec french: pitcher, from to pitch, meaning "to throw something carelessly", "to discard". Un exemple trouvé au hazard sur le net: Autrefois, je laissais quand même une chance au scénariste de me pitcher ses projets. Edited by pitwo on 04 July 2009 at 3:10am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| RBenham Triglot Groupie IndonesiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5643 days ago 60 posts - 62 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Indonesian | Message 62 of 62 09 July 2009 at 11:17am | IP Logged | ||
In the absence of any further context, this "exemple" looks more like "make a pitch for something", as in a sales pitch. I haven't heard this word (pitch) used as a verb in this sense in English, but who knows what our North American cousins get up to? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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