Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4955 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 9 of 18 26 January 2014 at 9:14pm | IP Logged |
Depends on you. If you still enjoy the content and find new things in it you haven't mastered before, than reviewing may be extremely useful. However, if you don't enjoy to review the content, then it may be the best to find another source to practice what have you been learning. Spanish is one of the best language for finding resources, including free ones. Podcasts, a grammar book or another full course (preferably very different from th main one), that all can help you solidify the knowledge without having to drill the same material over and over.
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AndrewS Diglot Newbie Russian Federation Joined 4372 days ago 27 posts - 37 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 10 of 18 26 January 2014 at 11:34pm | IP Logged |
You might be interested in reading this scary story. 500 hours! Afterwards the martyr said "My experience with Pimsleur French is pretty much the same as this review".
There are enough positive experiences of course, but it is always beneficial to know really exceeding ones. )
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Indíritheach Senior Member United States Joined 3991 days ago 108 posts - 146 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Irish, French
| Message 11 of 18 27 January 2014 at 1:23am | IP Logged |
I have never used Pimsleur, so I couldn't comment on it but I can tell you that in working through a dense text like Learning Irish I have found it indispensable to review previous lessons after every 4 or 5. Then again, I have a passion for the language and don't mind reading about grammar over and over. I also enjoy listening to the accompanying cassettes whenever I have time.
By contrast, when I went through Assimil Spanish With Ease I never reviewed the info because I would have found it extremely boring. A few months after having completed the course, though, I find it useful to re-listen to the dialogues, sometimes even in my car.
I'd say go with a multi-track approach...Assimil is great, I enjoyed the first two volumes of FSI Spanish (sold by Barron's), and I've heard great things about Linguaphone. That way, you can add to your study time without getting bored. I have found that using a multi-track approach with Irish creates a nice synergy...for example, I encountered the past tense of all 11 irregular verbs in Buntús Cainte a couple of months before I got to them in Learning Irish, so I was familiar with them and the latter text helped explain them better. Perhaps, if you can afford it, branching out into several other courses will help you too.
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tomgosse Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3938 days ago 90 posts - 143 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 12 of 18 27 January 2014 at 4:20pm | IP Logged |
Thank you all for kind replies. I will most certainly put a lot of them in action.
I think (I hope) I'm not as compulsive as the gentleman who put 500 hours into Pimsleur. I don't expect to get a 100% on each lesson. I'm happy if I get the 80% that Pimsleur recommends. On the last few lessons I was getting about 50% of the responses correct.
I am also using other sources to learn Spanish. I am reading two text books: Spanish Demystified by Jenny Petrow and Madrigal's Magic Key To Spanish by Margarita Madrigal. The latter is a very dense book and requires a lot of review every few pages. I'm also using Memrise flashcards and Duolingo.
Another resource that helps me a lot is the Youtube channel: Señor Jordan. He presents Spanish lessons in nice bite-size chunks that are great for a beginner like me. I highly recommend his channel.
I installed anki but I'm still trying to figure out how to use it. It seems that I'd have to spend a lot of time entering text for the cards.
Again, thanks to all who responded.
Gracias,
Tomás
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Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5855 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese
| Message 13 of 18 27 January 2014 at 4:35pm | IP Logged |
tomgosse wrote:
I installed anki but I'm still trying to figure out how to use it. It seems that I'd have to spend a lot of time entering text for the cards. |
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There are decks available that have been uploaded by other people. I have found some decent ones for Japanese, I'm sure some of the Spanish ones are good too. It might be easier (and faster) to install one and delete liberally (anything that bores you etc) than to make a good deck yourself, at least that's my conclusion :-) I've done both, and the deck I downloaded is just... better.
Liz
Edited by Lizzern on 27 January 2014 at 4:36pm
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Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4955 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 14 of 18 27 January 2014 at 4:57pm | IP Logged |
Depends on what kind of cards you are using, Tom. If you wat the simple L1 front and L2 back for words, it doesn't have to take that long, provided you enter smaller chunks at once. Of course, sentences take longer. However, emk (and I think Sprachprofi as well but not sure) has made some tools to make it much faster and easier to enter things from ebooks or your web browser, if I am not mistaken. Or you can get a ready made deck. It isn't as good as your own, in my opinion, but you might find something really good in the wide selection available for Spanish learners.
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YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4200 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish
| Message 15 of 18 27 January 2014 at 5:33pm | IP Logged |
Another way to quickly make Anki decks is if you can find a list of words somewhere (like some 5000 most common words in your language list) you can paste them into excel export them as a text document and import them into Anki. It takes a little bit of maneuvering, but there are guides that show you how, and it's really easy once you get the hang of it. Though often there are already premade decks like this you can just download.
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6543 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 16 of 18 28 January 2014 at 5:51am | IP Logged |
Indíritheach wrote:
I have never used Pimsleur, so I couldn't comment on it but I can tell you that in working through a dense text like Learning Irish I have found it indispensable to review previous lessons after every 4 or 5. |
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Pimsleur lessons are anything but dense, though.
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