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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 57 of 115 08 March 2014 at 12:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
Oh well, this sort of posturing is the one thing that grinds my gears like a corn mill. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6439 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 58 of 115 08 March 2014 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah - he's the second guy to do similar things in the last while. It's a pity when it happens. There are some really amazing people here, like Iversen, and it's just bizarre when people come in with an axe to grind and won't pay attention to what's actually here. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4711 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 59 of 115 08 March 2014 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I agree with Volte. There are some amazingly helpful people here. Part of the reason my
questions seem all over the board is that I often am looking for info to help out people I work with in finding good resources. I think it is really cool when someone you like at work says to you weeks later "Thanks for putting me onto Assimil. I've never stuck with German for so long and it is bringing it all back quickly" or something like that. I'd never have known of that course before this website. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4254 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish | Message 60 of 115 08 March 2014 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think essentials can change a lot depending on how you want to use languages and what aspects of culture you are most interested in.
For example, for Film Studies I would say the 4 most essential languages to learn would be English, French, Japanese, and Italian. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4253 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 61 of 115 08 March 2014 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I was reading through this thread and I found that one of the points Culebrilla used was that it's not effective to learn a language through another learned language and this struck me as very odd. I do almost all of my language learning through English, which is a learned language.
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| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4369 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans | Message 62 of 115 08 March 2014 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think after enough time spent going through language books, there gets to be a point where eventually the same things are repeated. I do think in general courses written with a particular language base are probably geared towards the particular difficulties speakers of those languages would have, but I don't know how much of an issue that really is. If you learn a Slavic language you eventually have to learn the cases and endings. That's not intuitive for a native English speaker, and so English courses probably focus on more explanations of what a case is and how it functions, but considering I've heard German and Russian speakers say they have difficulties with remembering the correct endings in Polish, maybe it doesn't make too much of a difference. It may not be the "ideal" way to learn a language, but I don't know that it really makes a noticeable difference long term, and I imagine that sometimes using your native language is incredibly difficult.
All that being said though, I haven't tried learning a language through German yet. That's not so much because I think it would be too challenging or inefficient, but because it just isn't necessary--not to mention it's easier and cheaper for me to find courses with an English base. Though if I ever do find some resources in German, I might try it to see what it's like. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4521 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 63 of 115 08 March 2014 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't think that's what he claimed. He wrote that it's not efficient. The thing is that efficiency doesn't really matter that much in language learning (imho), sustainability of a method does seem to be much more correlated with its effectiveness than the efficiency of a method does (except when the efficiency is close to null, like riding a bike for learning Russian - so let's assume something reasonable). Edited by daegga on 08 March 2014 at 7:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 64 of 115 08 March 2014 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
Of course it depends on the languages you want to learn and how your learning style/process evolves during your first 3-4 languages. I'm definitely spoilt by the logical and neat grammars of Finnish and Latin. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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