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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes  Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 9 of 40 29 March 2014 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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For Croats, Russian is much easier than Polish or Czech, German or French. Edited by Medulin on 29 March 2014 at 12:42pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 40 29 March 2014 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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Is it genuinely easier than the Western Slavic languages or do you just have more exposure?
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| Stolan Senior Member United States Joined 4032 days ago 274 posts - 368 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Thai, Lowland Scots Studies: Arabic (classical), Cantonese | Message 11 of 40 29 March 2014 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | ||
The declensions for nouns and adjectives has fewer paradigms than many other Slavic languages, but the mobile stress can ramp nouns up by a factor of 6 but its still not as difficult as Ancient Greek. The adjectives are easier than other inflecting languages. The verbs are the hardest part, the forms are few and less "busy" than Bulgarian or Romance languages, but mobile stress exists for the past and present, and the stem for the present cannot always be guessed from the infinitive. The slavic aspect pairs means all verbs are irregular even if they are completely regular. If I were a bit more straightforward and lumped anything that cannot be predicted absolutely from the infinitive, the language has 600 irregular verbs not counting memorizing pairs of verbs. Slightly as much as Ancient Greek. But if the mobile stress gets out of hand, I wouldn't worry as a merger will occur in the following centuries if that ever happens. I suppose the stems will adjust if they need too. Edited by Stolan on 30 March 2014 at 3:13am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 12 of 40 29 March 2014 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | ||
It's easier, especially the written form (for Slovenians it's even easier). 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 13 of 40 30 March 2014 at 12:11am | IP Logged | ||
How about Slovak? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 14 of 40 30 March 2014 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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I know of a Croatian translator (he works in Brussels) who sometimes checks the Czech
translation of a given English or French text before he translates it himself. Sometimes it gives a clue to as to how you should translate something in Croatian, even if he doesn't speak Czech. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5334 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 15 of 40 30 March 2014 at 8:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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As someone who has recently complained about how difficult it is to learn Russian, I should perhaps not say
this, but I believe it to be true anyway: It is almost impossible to give an objective view of how difficult a language is, that is true for everyone. Like several have already pointed out, perceived difficulty will depend on which languages you know already, and to which level. So I found it depressing that after four years of on-and-off studies in Russian, I understood as much, or rather as little, in Russian as I did in Portuguese, despite never having studied Portuguese. However, someone smart (not me) said that there is no such thing as a difficult language. Just a language which takes longer to learn. So with the right attitude - which you seem to have - and the right amount of effort, you should be ok. Good luck, anyhow:-) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| leisaowns Newbie United States Joined 4835 days ago 12 posts - 14 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Portuguese | Message 16 of 40 31 March 2014 at 4:05am | IP Logged | ||
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My Russian isn't great, or even good, but I think the most difficult thing for me is
sounding Russian. The case system just takes time and exposure. Don't worry about it. Just keep trying, keep listening, keep reading, etc. You'll just get the hang of it eventually. But I have a really hard time "sounding Russian". Russians tell me all the time that I just speak like an English speaker, my sentences are like sentences in English, and a lot of the time they don't make sense. It's not necessarily that I didn't use the right case or verbal aspect, it's just that I'm not Russian. haha But I suppose this too is cured with time and lots of exposure to native materials. I've started using whole sentences in my Goldlists instead of individual words or phrases. Maybe this will help too. And also, what Christianoo said. It seems to take a while for Russian vocabulary to stick. :P But just think: it'll all be worth it eventually! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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