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| henryblowery Newbie United States Joined 5988 days ago 7 posts - 8 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 13 02 October 2014 at 5:31am | IP Logged |
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Hello all! Based on the ACTFL scale, what proficiency do you think would be required to pursue a meaningful,
intimate relationship with another person? I'm learning Spanish for example. What level should I be able to speak at before I attempted to pursue a relationship with a woman who spoke little to no English? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| robarb Nonaglot Senior Member United States languagenpluson Joined 5058 days ago 361 posts - 921 votes  Speaks: Portuguese, English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, French Studies: Mandarin, Danish, Russian, Norwegian, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Greek, Latin, Nepali, Modern Hebrew | Message 2 of 13 02 October 2014 at 5:52am | IP Logged |
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You don't need any Spanish to attempt to pursue a relationship-- sure, it limits your options for strategies for
meeting people, and some will reject you outright for not sharing a language, but if you manage to establish an attraction by being your hot nonverbal self, you can then share the experience of learning to communicate with each other. At that point you'll probably have to begin serious studying though, as it'll be hard for the relationship to get really serious unless you can talk at high Intermediate level. The stage where you don't yet share a language can only get you so far, right? I don't think it's necessary to get to the really highest level (Superior). If the relationship really goes serious and long-term, you'll talk to each other enough that your level in conversational language within the topics you talk to each other about will eventually get really high. It doesn't matter if you're missing other language skills like reading comprehension, vocabulary relating to things you would never talk to each other about, or understanding variants that she doesn't use. Edited by robarb on 02 October 2014 at 5:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 3 of 13 02 October 2014 at 10:56am | IP Logged |
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As the wise old men of Rammstein said:
Sie rief mir Worte ins Gesicht Die Zunge Lust gestreut Verstand nur ihre Sprache nicht Ich hab es nicht bereut 7 persons have voted this message useful | |
| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5206 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish | Message 4 of 13 02 October 2014 at 10:59am | IP Logged |
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From my personal experience, at B1 level (CEFR; I'm not familiar with ACTFL) it's possible but not easy. Serious conversations can be difficult. B2 would be a lot more comfortable.
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| rdearman Senior Member United Kingdom rdearman.orgRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5235 days ago 881 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French, Mandarin | Message 5 of 13 02 October 2014 at 3:19pm | IP Logged |
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Is this woman still going to be around by the time you've learned Spanish?
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| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4098 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 6 of 13 02 October 2014 at 3:44pm | IP Logged |
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Given that some people marry without sharing a language... you only need to be proficient in Google Translate and body language.
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| henryblowery Newbie United States Joined 5988 days ago 7 posts - 8 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 7 of 13 02 October 2014 at 4:22pm | IP Logged |
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I'm not just starting the language learning process. I tested advanced-low in oral Spanish this time last year. I
participate in a hispanic church and am pretty integrated into the Hispanic community here. The question was meant to be more of a general question rather than about me and my particular circumstance. Edited by henryblowery on 02 October 2014 at 4:27pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4621 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 8 of 13 02 October 2014 at 5:06pm | IP Logged |
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I think a high B2 is more than enough to maintain a meaningful friendship. Maybe the language of love is more forgiving and floats along on B1.
Will she also be learning or improving her English? My wife is from Germany and I supposed I didn't need to learn German as we live in the UK and she already spoke fluent English when I met her. But I sure as hell didn't want to feel like an idiot when we went to visit her family and friends in her homeland. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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