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patrickwilken
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 Message 9 of 14
04 November 2014 at 8:52pm | IP Logged 
Hashimi wrote:
There are 600 to 1000 words per page in most academic books.   http://anycount.com/WordCountBlog/ho w-many-words-in-one-page


The standard number of words per page on a paperback/hardback is 250-350 per page:

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How many words are there to a page? It depends on the font you are using, of course, but in general, 250-300 words per page. Therefore, a 55,000 word book should be about 200 manuscript pages. A 100,000 word book would be about 400. Editors like 12 point font.


And that quote by Nation of 40k words needed is just wrong. It's about 8k words to get 98% coverage of standard texts.
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patrickwilken
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 Message 10 of 14
04 November 2014 at 8:52pm | IP Logged 
Hashimi wrote:
There are 600 to 1000 words per page in most academic books.   http://anycount.com/WordCountBlog/ho w-many-words-in-one-page


The standard number of words per page on a paperback/hardback is 250-350 per page:

http://www.megcabot.com/about-meg-cabot/frequently-asked-que stions-getting-published/

Quote:
How many words are there to a page? It depends on the font you are using, of course, but in general, 250-300 words per page. Therefore, a 55,000 word book should be about 200 manuscript pages. A 100,000 word book would be about 400. Editors like 12 point font.


And that quote by Nation of 40k words needed is just wrong. It's about 8k words to get 98% coverage of standard texts.
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Lemberg1963
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 Message 11 of 14
05 November 2014 at 7:16pm | IP Logged 
Nation does use 8000
words
as the 98% benchmark, and Laufer
confirms this
number. Generally the 98% mark varies between 5,000 and 9,000 words, and this seems to be
dependent on the corpus used for the frequency list. If your exposure is limited to
relatively basic text, like tabloids or daily news, you could probably get away with 4-5k
words as your 98% threshhold.
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Camundonguinho
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 Message 12 of 14
05 November 2014 at 9:49pm | IP Logged 
8k is vocabulary of a 6-year-old native speaker of English.
You gotta aim higher!
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luke
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 Message 13 of 14
05 November 2014 at 11:31pm | IP Logged 
Camundonguinho wrote:
8k is vocabulary of a 6-year-old native speaker of English.
You gotta aim higher!


Much higher. A 10 year old has a 10k
vocabulary
. By the time a child is teenager they know everything. Just ask them.
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Elexi
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 Message 14 of 14
05 November 2014 at 11:55pm | IP Logged 
From Luke's internet curio - read this and weep - 'The most common vocabulary size for
foreign test-takers is 4,500 words'. So only half way to the goal.



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