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tristano
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 Message 17 of 23
18 November 2014 at 2:50pm | IP Logged 
I would like it was possible to double like your post @Expugnator. I find it quite
inspiring.
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Luso
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 Message 18 of 23
18 November 2014 at 4:55pm | IP Logged 
tristano wrote:
I would like it was possible to double like your post @Expugnator. I find it quite inspiring.

I did it for you, tristano. Actually, it's not "like", but rather "find useful". Oh, the social networks...

To be frank, I did the same (choose an easy one) with Italian: up until now, it has been a walk in the park. The number of words which are the same in Portuguese and Italian is staggering.

The only difference is that I've got my hands full with the difficult ones (Arabic and Sanskrit). I know I have a good chance at mastering them eventually, but it will take both time and dedication. Which, by the way, are two fields where Expugnator is excellent.

Knowing when not to go for a new language is as important (or more) than choosing one.
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Ari
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 Message 19 of 23
18 November 2014 at 6:21pm | IP Logged 
If you want to learn several languages and you know which ones, there's an argument for starting with a few easy ones. Language learning ability tends to increase with an increased number of languages learned, though the returns diminish after a few languages. But If you can choose between learning a difficult language from the start or doing a difficult language after acquiring two easier onees, I'd say all else being equal go for the easier ones first.

Of course often all esle is not equal and once language is of more immediate use/interest. In that case, follow your passion.
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lichtrausch
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 Message 20 of 23
18 November 2014 at 7:29pm | IP Logged 
I had planned to alternate between studying hard and easy languages, so I started on
Spanish after becoming proficient in Japanese. But Spanish was so damn boring compared to
Japanese! So I put it aside and instead moved on to Mandarin.
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YnEoS
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 Message 21 of 23
18 November 2014 at 8:24pm | IP Logged 
Camundonguinho wrote:
tristano wrote:
Follow your interests.
If you're interested in Dutch it would be easy for you if you have a good level of German.
But if your dream language is Malayalam what is the point to study any other language? Study Malayalam.


Unfortunately there are no language courses for Malayalam.
I have a grammar that is a re-release from 1912, hardly a ''new edition'' ...
No Assimil/Colloquial/TY etc Malayalam, only ancient faux-courses of questionable quality...

Choose languages with plenty of quality learning material,
like Mandarin, Japanese, French, Russian etc...



I'm slightly confused if anyone was actually asking about Malayalam or if that was just picked at random as an example, but CIIL has a pretty gigantic Malayalam course, 903 pages and 24 cassettes of 90 minutes in length.
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Iversen
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 Message 22 of 23
19 November 2014 at 11:10am | IP Logged 
My only non-Indoeuropean language so far is Bahasa Indonesia, and the strange thing is that it reminds me more about English than Irish or Polish do. It has the same blurry division lines between wordclasses, an even more rudimenary morphology and a fairly straightforward (and permissive) word order. But I do recognize that there are a few minor differences: the spelling of Indoneian is logical, whereas that of English is a mess. The verbs don't show tempus, but you can use adverbials if necessary. And the connector "yang" is used both with something like subordinate clauses and things that definitely aren't clauses. But by and large I didn't feel like I was on another planet when I began to study Bahasa Indonesia. I did when I first saw Irish.
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tristano
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 Message 23 of 23
24 November 2014 at 11:05pm | IP Logged 
YnEoS wrote:

I'm slightly confused if anyone was actually asking about Malayalam or if that was just picked at random as an
example, but CIIL has a pretty gigantic Malayalam course, 903 pages and 24 cassettes of 90 minutes in length.


It was indeed a random example :) but nice to know :D


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