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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 9 of 11 08 December 2014 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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And even when teachers have choice, they still consider the ease of teaching and grading. For example I've never had a class where we listened to the whole accompanying CD/cassette (over the course of the year obv). In most classrooms audio tasks are still a bit fussy, and even if there are no problems, the profs often deem the tasks too easy, neglecting the fact that most learners don't have exposure to the language outside the classroom.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 11 08 December 2014 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
Not for me, no. I meant that classes can be what one needs for that, but many naturally prioritize personal time and they need discipline for dealing with work and obligations, not with language learning. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5765 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 11 of 11 08 December 2014 at 5:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
I guess it all depends on your definition of discipline. I think of discipline as the ability to do the things you are supposed to do when there are other things you would rather do at that point in time. That can done by regulating your attention ("I have to concentrate on getting my work done before I can play!") or by regulating how tempting the alternatives seem at that moment. Temptation can be regulated internally, for example by feeling guilty for giving in to it, and by anticipating the feeling of guilt to make the tempting activity less attractive. But it can also be regulated externally, for example by putting physical distance between yourself and the tempting option, or by putting yourself into a situation in which concentrating on your work is relatively easy, like studying at a library or in a study group rather than at home with the TV running in the background. Habits also are a kind of external regulation. I think internal regulation is "self discipline", while using external regulation can be called "other self regulatory skills". And if there is no conflict between what you are supposed to be doing (be it your own plans or somebody else's expectations) you don't need to self-regulate much, anyways. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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