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lady_skywalker Triglot Senior Member Netherlands aspiringpolyglotblog Joined 6901 days ago 909 posts - 942 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, French, Dutch, Italian
| Message 25 of 27 07 November 2006 at 3:55am | IP Logged |
solidsnake wrote:
dont get me wrong, I'll probably end up attacking another language
or two after mandarin (cantonese and malay), but i just seem to
learn so much new stuff everyday in mandarin, i think a lot of people
cheat themselves by settling for a lower level of fluency, than by
seeing just how deep that rabbit hole goes. |
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It depends how long you've been studying for. If you're relatively new to Mandarin (or any other language for that matter), it all seems wonderful at first. You feel like you can spend your whole life getting to know the language and aim to become fluent in it. For some people, not all, after the 3rd or 4th year of studying that language full-time, boredom will settle in, you might feel that you're making little, if any, progress and you just give up as you feel you'd be better off pouring your energy into something you feel enthusiastic about. Once learning begins to feel like a chore, you're in trouble.
This happened to me with Mandarin, although I've decided to pick things up where I left them and improve my proficiency in the language. But I can imagine some people will just move on to something else, especially with a language like Mandarin. No language is necessarily easier or harder than another but Mandarin is one of those languages that needs a LOT of time and effort to achieve fluency.
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| frenkeld Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6954 days ago 2042 posts - 2719 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German
| Message 26 of 27 07 November 2006 at 10:06am | IP Logged |
lady_skywalker wrote:
... after the 3rd or 4th year of studying that language full-time, boredom will settle in ... |
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There are plenty of language enthusiasts who would be lucky to have one hour a day for language study. Assuming that full-time study means 8 hours a day, the 3 to 4 year period you are thinking of translates into 24 to 32 years for a one-hour-a-day learner.
Of course, language study is not so linear, but it is still clearly the case that a busy language hobbyist can easily end up never learning even a single language fully unless a conscious decision is made to avoid that trap.
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| solidsnake Diglot Senior Member China Joined 7052 days ago 469 posts - 488 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin
| Message 27 of 27 07 November 2006 at 10:07am | IP Logged |
this is true i suppose. I am only in my second year (17 month) of
mandarin study, although I have clocked in some serious hours of
self-study. I work in finance and 90% of my business calls are to
mandarin-only speakers as a liason. I think finding work in your
target language is the fast track to oral fluency, altough everyday i
find i have to incorporate more and more "shu mian yu" into my
speech which is where the language really starts taking foot. How
can anyone cover 2000 years+ of literature in 3-4 years?!
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