Maladyets Groupie Ukraine Joined 6647 days ago 40 posts - 42 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 1 of 6 02 December 2006 at 1:19pm | IP Logged |
I love slavic languages as some know
but i was searching the web with a question on my mind, what is the most effeciant order to learn the slavic languages in??
i could not find my answer anywhere, and i even searched the board.i was wondering if anybody could help me with this question from what you know.
i was thinking the order might be something like this
Russian , ukrainian, belrussian, polish, czech...???
or like Russian, bulgarian, macedonian, seribian, bosnian, croatian...???
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6920 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 6 02 December 2006 at 3:13pm | IP Logged |
In another thread somebody said Ukrainian, because then you understand most of the spoken Russian and get the easier spelling. (I wouldn't know anything about that, though)
There is a lot of info in an old thread: Slavic Language Family Learning Sequence.
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SamD Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6670 days ago 823 posts - 987 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Portuguese, Norwegian
| Message 3 of 6 04 December 2006 at 7:26am | IP Logged |
I would recommend learning Russian first. It's the Slavic language with the most speakers. If your native language uses the Roman alphabet, you also get the benefit of learning Cyrillic which can be used for some other Slavic languages.
Other than that, I suppose it's a matter of which Slavic language you need the most or feel drawn to. I've heard that if you learn two Slavic languages, you shouldn't have much of a problem understanding the others.
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Wildfire Diglot Newbie Russian Federation Joined 6654 days ago 14 posts - 21 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: French
| Message 4 of 6 04 December 2006 at 12:17pm | IP Logged |
If I were you, I'd learn Ukrainian first, because this language is more transparent for other Slavic languages speakers (if you know Ukrainian, you can understand (w/o learning) written & spoken Polish, written & spoken Russian / Belarussian, written Bulgarian, some Slovak; if you start from Russian, you'll be able to understand written & spoken Ukrainian / Belarussian and written Bulgarian). Furthermore, Ukrainian is phonetical.
Also, take into consideration the fact that some Slavic languages show asymmetrical mutual intelligibity (e.g. speakers of BCS understand Polish better than the other way round - this info is unconfirmed tho).
If you are sure you will manage to learn all major Slavic languages, you can take the following order (as if you move between Slavic countries counter-clockwise ^^):
Slovenian - Croatian - Serbian - Bulgarian - Russian - Ukrainian - Polish - Czech / Slovak.
otherwise learn Ukrainian first, then move to Southern Slavic languages and finally learn Western Slavic tongues.:
Ukrainian - Russian - Bulgarian - BCS - Polish - Czech / Slovak
well, it's just my opinion based mostly on intelligibity between Slavic tongues.
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Alga Newbie Thailand Joined 6575 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes
| Message 5 of 6 05 December 2006 at 5:05am | IP Logged |
I'd definitely start learing Russian. After that you could try other Slavic languages. It's not so easy to learn Russian or Ukrainian (the most widely spoken Slavic languages)... but in Ukraine everybody can speak Russian...
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salvius Bilingual Diglot Newbie Canada Joined 6595 days ago 22 posts - 22 votes Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: French, German
| Message 6 of 6 05 December 2006 at 1:11pm | IP Logged |
Well, if I were you, I'd learn Serbian because then learning Croatian and Bosnian is a snap ;). Plus you get the added benefit that Macedonian and Bulgarian would be very simple :)
Seriously though, I'd go with Russian first; it's the biggest and will make any other language a lot easier to learn. These languages are very closely related--though I wonder why exactly they're quite SO similar considering the geographic expanse, and am wondering if they'll stay that way...
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I'm not sure if this is true... People from BCS especially like to say this I find and I don't think it's true. Listening to Russian or Polish, I catch every odd sentence, but a lot of it is a jumbled mess with some words I kind of know thrown in. One of my Polish friends feels exactly the same about Serbian so...
The only thing I can think of is that Serbian may have kept many of its 'old' Slavic words in the form of lesser used synonyms; therefore, a Polish person may not understand our loanword, but we understand their word because it is still a synonym in Serbian. I have no proof other Slavic languages did not do the same...
The written language is something entirely different; with a little sleuthing, I can easily get the meaning of a wide variety of Slavic languages when written down. The roots are extremely similar.
In any case, they're remarkably transparent to each other, although not at all very much so to speakers of Germanic and Romance languages.
Edited by salvius on 05 December 2006 at 4:20pm
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