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William Camden
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19 February 2009 at 5:38pm | IP Logged 
I remember seeing a book on my old university library's shelf with the title Greek Is Hebrew. It was published about half a century ago.
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21 February 2009 at 9:11pm | IP Logged 
From what I've been able to browse of a scanned copy on scribd, Yahuda's tract is a pseudo-scientific work in the same spirit of ones by Hungarian dilettantes tracing the direct descent of Hungarian from Sumerian. They're all much loved by the rabble of nationalists/chauvinists.
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William Camden
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22 February 2009 at 11:52am | IP Logged 
It could be the same book - I may have reversed the title as it was a while ago. I did not take it seriously, anyway. I thought it was the work of an eccentric.
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22 February 2009 at 2:44pm | IP Logged 
My first guess for the etymology of pirate would be something to do with pyro-, fire. You know, setting ships on fire and all that.. But apparently that's not the case.
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23 February 2009 at 12:48am | IP Logged 
Neos wrote:
Fire is of the same root with the Greek pir (fire; πυρ).


Question: Please let me know: are the Greek letters that I use when I write Greek words readable?


That's why I suspected a connection exist between pirate and all the pyro- words (e.g. pyromania, pyrography). Otherwise I would not have accused pirates of any fiery involvement.

I wonder where Ogan / Огън comes from (Bulgarian for fire). It has nothing to do with πυρ, that's for sure.

By the way, English lacks a distinct word for destructive fire. You just say e.g. forest fire. In Bulgarian the tame fire that burns in your fireplace is one word, whereas destructive fires are another ( they're called 'Pojar' ).

Does any other language make this distinction?





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