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JamesFr
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 Message 1 of 4
15 November 2011 at 5:47pm | IP Logged 
http://mylanguages.org/lessons.php
From Afrikaans to Zulu.
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Iversen
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 Message 2 of 4
15 November 2011 at 9:50pm | IP Logged 
I checked the Scottish section, and there was a fair amount of free stuff, inclusive a good video about Scots in Scots, with translation onscreen.

For 'bigger' languages you can find more comprehensive courses elsewhere, but it is a nice addition to the repertoire for languages with few online resources.
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Cainntear
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Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic
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 Message 3 of 4
15 November 2011 at 10:33pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
I checked the Scottish section, and there was a fair amount of free stuff, inclusive a good video about Scots in Scots, with translation onscreen.

A fair amount of stuff, but it's pretty much useless.

The homepage starts by saying
mylanguages wrote:
If you're trying to learn Scottish which is also called Scots...

(which is not true, as there is no such language as "Scottish" -- "Scots" is "Scots")

and then it switches to talking about Gaelic on the very same page.

The pronunciation is a mess, having sounds that occur in Scots (but not Gaelic) and sounds that occur in Gaelic (but not Scots). And it doesn't even manage to cover the full phonetic inventory of either. And they follow that up by linking to a video on the pronunciation of Irish!

There's some very specifically regional forms in there, and there's some things that just strike me as plain wrong (eg "a body" for the number 1: "a body" is someone), although this may again be down to regional variation.

I'm still trying to work out where the author of this page was from, as the idea of having a definite article th' is quite weird to me. It's also odd to see WH and F question words from one speaker. I suspect it's been cobbled together from various internet pages by someone who isn't a speaker....

When you get to the videos, we're back to the Scots/Gaelic confusion, with one of each. The Gaelic one doesn't even have any sound. Then the "reading" section is all Gaelic.


On a general note, the boilerplate text on the template really doesn't make sense in some languages. Apparently "Feminine and Masculine have a very important role in Scottish, therefore they need very special attention", but Scots has no grammatical gender beyond the third person pronouns, which function like Modern English.

The audio lessons are all deep-links to other people's sites (all of the ones I checked were Book2 and DLIFLC). It's one thing to link to a page so that people know it's an external resource (and can explore the external page), or even just have a little note saying where it comes from, but deep-linking is using someone else's server and bandwidth and taking the credit. Not cool.
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Iversen
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15 November 2011 at 11:58pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear went further into the written sections than I did, and after a repeated visit I have to agree with his assessments. I noticed already at my first visit with some astonisment that there was a Gaelic video on the 'Scottish' page, but was more intent on listening to the one video that actually was in Scots.

Edited by Iversen on 15 November 2011 at 11:58pm



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