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Poll Question: Does it make sense to do a course from the end to the beginning?
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luke
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 Message 1 of 5
07 August 2013 at 6:45pm | IP Logged 
Assimil has the concept of waves. You start at the beginning and go to the end. Part way through you start at the beginning and go through it again with a second wave.

Some do more than two waves depending on how much attention they give to each lesson and how well they want to learn the material before they are satisfied.

Have you ever told yourself, "I know there are some things in that course - whether Assimil or not - that I haven't learned yet - maybe I'll do it again." The challenge can be keeping up momentum to get all the way through. Attention drifts, other things become priorities, etc.

What if one started with the last lesson and worked toward the beginning? Usually the end lessons are the most difficult. If you give up before you get to the beginning, at least you did the part that was of most benefit to you.

What do you all think?
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hrhenry
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 Message 2 of 5
07 August 2013 at 7:30pm | IP Logged 
luke wrote:

What if one started with the last lesson and worked toward the beginning? Usually the
end lessons are the most difficult. If you give up before you get to the beginning, at
least you did the part that was of most benefit to you.

Probably wouldn't be beneficial, at least to me. Most courses build upon previous
lessons/chapters. If there were something that I felt I needed to review, I'd most
likely also review the lead-up to my problem areas.

R.
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Teango
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 Message 3 of 5
07 August 2013 at 9:09pm | IP Logged 
I like the way you think; it would make an interesting experiment! Although I wouldn't necessary like to drive all the way back to the very beginning where the audio is slowly and painfully annunciated (this could prove quite boring and would in all likelihood be a less efficient use of time). Perhaps instead you could go back through the lessons, one by one, in search of the point where it starts to feel very comfortable (i.e. approx. 98% comprehension and above), and then start to move forwards through the lessons from this point to the end, to work progressively on less certain vocabulary and structures again.

Edited by Teango on 07 August 2013 at 9:15pm

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07 August 2013 at 10:07pm | IP Logged 
Hm I think it makes sense if you're intermediate. In the second half of most courses, the difficulty starts to become arbitrary, especially if it's not your first course and/or you use supplemental materials. As soon as you have the basics down, the rest will vary between people in its usefulness, even among the typical target audiences: students, travellers, immigrants, businessmen.

I think the best solution is just to go to the end as soon as you are getting bored - for many this would be the middle. If lesson 100 is too difficult, go to 99, etc.

This seems interesting. I typically find the first lessons boring and if I even do a course I skip to lesson 20 or so (in Assimil), but maybe I should simply start from the end instead.
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Expugnator
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 Message 5 of 5
09 August 2013 at 9:29pm | IP Logged 
I don't know if doing backwards would work for me. As for reviewing, I only do so for
totally essential or outstanding books. Elsewhere, I just do one book after another,
skipping the lessons that are too easy. I've been doing this for Chinese and for
Norwegian. In Chinese I reviewed Assimil and Méthode 90, because they were above the
level and fit my needs. In Norwegian I just built up on previous knowledge. At the
intermediate level difficulty started to become arbitrary as Serpent stated.

As for Georgian, I may have to review books due to scarcity of good resources.


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