narigold Newbie United States Joined 4115 days ago 8 posts - 8 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 1 of 11 21 August 2013 at 12:53am | IP Logged |
I have a grasp on conjugating verbs, but what I'm struggling with is making the leap from "looking up" the
conjugation I need in the verb chart of my mind, to AUTOMATICALLY producing the correctly conjugated verb. I
was wondering what the ideas or consensus is about how to study and learn verb conjugations to best get to that
point where it's very natural? What strategies do you use for studying verb conjugations in your SRS? Other
methods other than SRS? I have my own ideas of course but I'd love to compare them with other methods people
are using.
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Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 2 of 11 21 August 2013 at 1:48am | IP Logged |
A lot of input, especially listening. You seem to have a great basis to build upon. YOu just need to put yourself into situations when you don't have time to use that mental verb chart and you need to get used to all that being used in situ.
Get some tv series, perhaps dubbed for the beginning. I really liked Once Upon a Time. When I began, my listening skills were B1- or so and very fast got to understanding 99% of the show. And read some books, that helps as well.
Than you will surely find active practice to be much easier :-)
I use simple srs pattern front:estar (present) back:estoy, estas,... but I'm afraid that it would't help you that much snce you may be too advanced for that.
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7204 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 3 of 11 21 August 2013 at 7:01am | IP Logged |
The FSI Basic Spanish course has a systematic way of teaching automaticity in verb conjugation and pretty much everything else.
FSI Basic Spanish is available for free.
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5374 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 4 of 11 21 August 2013 at 12:47pm | IP Logged |
Depending on your level I would recommend either Michel Thomas or FSI.
MT hits all the conjugations in a memorable way and gets to everything pretty fast. His "advanced" course hits everything in only about 5 hours. The foundations course has a nice summary CD and maybe the advanced course does also. The summaries simply hit on everything in an even faster format.
FSI Basic is simply awesome. It is definitely the best thing for automaticity in Spanish. It is quite a project, though. Also, it can be somewhat tedious if you are a beginner.
Learning Spanish Like Crazy and/or Paul Noble Spanish may be good options also. I have not done them, but would consider them.
Edited by James29 on 21 August 2013 at 12:48pm
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iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5261 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 5 of 11 21 August 2013 at 1:13pm | IP Logged |
Welcome to the forum, narigold! For conjugations, drill, drill, drill. Did I mention to drill? Yeah, drill. While Spanish doesn't use pronouns with conjugated verbs on a regular basis, only for emphasis, you should use them with your conjugated verbs as you drill them until they become automatic. I second James29's recommendation. Drill those verbs!
Edited by iguanamon on 21 August 2013 at 1:13pm
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narigold Newbie United States Joined 4115 days ago 8 posts - 8 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 6 of 11 21 August 2013 at 8:52pm | IP Logged |
Any opinion on learning the chart versus learning sentences in different persons? I've got Anki setup to show me
the chart with the irregular entries highlighted and the spatial positions help me to remember. But maybe this is
not ideal because when producing I have to look up the word in my mental chart?
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 7 of 11 21 August 2013 at 9:01pm | IP Logged |
whatever makes you remember is good enough. I just memorise/use tables. not for Spanish
but for every other language it's the same principle.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6908 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 8 of 11 25 August 2013 at 10:31pm | IP Logged |
Narigold, it's not that every verb in Spanish has a unique pattern. Once you have the -ar, -er and -ir patterns tense by tense, everything will be much easier. Before each test we had in school, I just went through the grammar section (including verb tables) and made sure I knew everything (I mostly did).
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