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| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6152 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 1 of 12 08 November 2013 at 1:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Teach Yourself have revised a number of their more popular courses to use their “Discover Method”. From what I can tell, the courses are essentially the same as the previous volume, but with a lower page count. I don’t think they revised the audio in the majority of cases. Has anyone used any of the most recent courses using their “Discover Method” ? What is it exactly, apart from a marketing ploy ?
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 2 of 12 08 November 2013 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Do they also come in even bigger boxes than before (filled mostly with air)?
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| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5883 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 3 of 12 08 November 2013 at 9:30pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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On Amazon, I got a look at the first chapter of Teach Yourself Complete Spanish (2013) and compared it to the first chapter of my 2007 edition (the edition prior to Complete). It looks to cut out in the middle of the chapter, but the dialogs are the same, the exercises are the same, the grammar explanations are the same. The only differences I saw was the chapter started with a bit about regions in Spain which is not in my book. It also includes items off the CEFL qualifications, specifically stating what abilities in levels A1, A2, B1, etc. you'll be taught in the chapter. That's about it. The "Discovery Method" looks like it's just rebranding their already existing method.
Another piece of info. On Amazon's site, the "Kindle Edition with Video/Audio" is only for the latest version of the Kindle Fire (and HD) and iOS devises. It won't work on 1st Gen Fires or regular Kindles. Just an FYI. They're getting a lot of negative reviews from people with older Kindles who missed that part. Edited by sabotai on 08 November 2013 at 9:33pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4910 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 4 of 12 10 November 2013 at 1:23pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I can verify that the Kindle Editions with audio and video don't work on a Kindle Fire HD (which is 2nd gen). They might work on the new gen just coming out, but I haven't seen evidence of that. It was made for iPad.
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| Indíritheach Senior Member United States Joined 4046 days ago 108 posts - 146 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Irish, French | Message 5 of 12 10 November 2013 at 3:36pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thank you for making me laugh out loud this morning, after 2 grueling hours of language study. Although I have to say, Teach Yourself Irish Grammar is pretty good. But I got it used for about $3, and it didn't come in a box. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 6 of 12 10 November 2013 at 5:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I've also heard good reports of the corresponding book for Welsh grammar. I don't like to knock them too hard, as they were sort of pioneers in the idea of self-learning (not just of languages). I suppose they had to update their "reliable but dull" image in this competitive field. It's a pity it seems to have been done in a way that does not really benefit language learners and seems designed to suck in the unwary. It would be interesting to have the views of a guru (e.g. Professor Arguelles) on whether the TYS "Discovery Method" is anything more than marketing. The current Wikipedia article on TYS mentions it briefly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_You rself
EDIT: a marketing video: http://vimeo.com/33958390 Edited by montmorency on 10 November 2013 at 5:24pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 7 of 12 10 November 2013 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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By the way, has anyone used the "Perfect Your..." series of TYS books?
It is supposed to come after "Complete ..." in the language level, but I can only find versions in the big four West European languages, namely French, German, Spanish and Italian. [Cynic]Maybe they've just packaged up the grammar and vocabulary that got squeezed out of the older courses in order to make them more "popular".[/Cynic] :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4910 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 8 of 12 14 November 2013 at 8:18am | IP Logged | ||||||||
If you look at the "Perfect Your..." courses, there is some overlap with the "Complete" courses, and in the case of French it is a different author. So I think they aren't just the "leftovers". In fact, I personally plan on getting Perfect Your French to use after Assimil, having avoided Teach Yourself French completely. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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