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napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 9 of 16 03 March 2014 at 8:08am | IP Logged |
DavidStyles wrote:
I'll get Michel Thomas Method Arabic, as that series usually provides a good springboard into a language's core grammar in a non-obfuscatory fashion. Then, with that decent working knowledge to get me started, I'll dive into deeper grammar knowledge and of course expand my vocabulary.
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I'd prefer we all studied the same course. As I have already mentioned, I believe the last Study Group failed because the members were doing very different things. If we do not study the same thing, we would hardly benefit from studying in a group. :-)
If you want to do Michel Thomas first, we should all do it, but AFAIK, it teaches Egyptian Arabic. Do you think we should start with Egyptian before moving on to MSA, rather than the other way around?
DavidStyles wrote:
I like the idea of video lectures in principle; the ones to which you linked seem reluctant to load at present though.
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Here's a link to the first lecture on youtube
Edited by napoleon on 03 March 2014 at 8:10am
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| DinaAlia Pentaglot Newbie Norway Joined 3936 days ago 24 posts - 49 votes Speaks: Swedish, Danish, Norwegian*, English, French Studies: Greek, Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish, Russian, Arabic (Written), Icelandic Studies: Modern Hebrew
| Message 10 of 16 03 March 2014 at 9:13am | IP Logged |
Thank you for the video link. I like his style.
I think we all have to study our different materials in addition to this material. My main interest is in the language
itself, and I don't think I'd be better off limiting myself in that regard.
Weekly progress reports for how long? However long we like?
Nouns, verbs, and particles. That simplifies things.
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DavidStyles Octoglot Pro Member United Kingdom Joined 3945 days ago 82 posts - 179 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Latin, French, Portuguese, Norwegian Studies: Mandarin, Russian, Swedish, Danish, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) Personal Language Map
| Message 11 of 16 03 March 2014 at 11:19am | IP Logged |
napoleon wrote:
I'd prefer we all studied the same course. As I have already mentioned, I believe the last Study Group failed because the members were doing very different things. If we do not study the same thing, we would hardly benefit from studying in a group. :-) |
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Well, the TACs work quite well. Maybe we do have different ideas about what is needed (perhaps because we have different needs).
napoleon wrote:
If you want to do Michel Thomas first, we should all do it |
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Well, I wouldn't wish to impose my preference on everyone, especially as the course is quite expensive (£170 for "Total" and "Perfect", as they are currently branded, something akin to what they used to call "Foundation" and "Advanced").
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AFAIK, it teaches Egyptian Arabic. Do you think we should start with Egyptian before moving on to MSA, rather than the other way around? |
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At this stage, I don't know enough about Arabic to be able to make an informed decision about how much it will interfere with learning to learn a dialect before MSA. In principle, learning MSA first is logically ideal. In practice, I haven't yet found resources for MSA that I like.
Thanks! That's very helpful. I suppose this is chiefly Classical/Quranic Arabic? I don't mind if it is; at this stage, I'll take any Arabic I can learn, if I like the medium in which it's being taught.
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| napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 12 of 16 03 March 2014 at 11:53am | IP Logged |
Yes you are right, the Madinah books do indeed teach Classical Arabic.
The first order of business would be to start a thread in the language log section.
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| napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 13 of 16 03 March 2014 at 12:28pm | IP Logged |
Here it is.
So, onward habibi! Let's study!
Edited by napoleon on 03 March 2014 at 12:32pm
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| napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 14 of 16 03 March 2014 at 7:55pm | IP Logged |
DinaAlia wrote:
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Weekly progress reports for how long? However long we like?
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Sorry, I must have missed your post.
The ideal would be to keep on going till we finish what we decide to study.
We never stop learning a language. But we do need to set a concrete goal.
I will be content if I finish the first Madinah book. That's the goal I'm setting for myself.
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| DinaAlia Pentaglot Newbie Norway Joined 3936 days ago 24 posts - 49 votes Speaks: Swedish, Danish, Norwegian*, English, French Studies: Greek, Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish, Russian, Arabic (Written), Icelandic Studies: Modern Hebrew
| Message 15 of 16 03 March 2014 at 9:35pm | IP Logged |
You're on.
Looks like a thirty-eight page long PDF that teaches you to read Arabic. Should take a week or two at most. Once
we've done that we'll set a new goal?
I'll supply it by learning phrases and dialogues from TY. It helps to have something to read. I can write some of them
here later if you want.
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| napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 16 of 16 03 March 2014 at 10:49pm | IP Logged |
DinaAlia wrote:
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Looks like a thirty-eight page long PDF that teaches you to read Arabic. Should take a week or two at most. Once
we've done that we'll set a new goal?
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Definitely.
DinaAlia wrote:
I'll supply it by learning phrases and dialogues from TY. It helps to have something to read. I can write some of them
here later if you want. |
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That would be great.
I have set up the group log here. Perhaps, we should continue our conversation there.
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