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Gemuse
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 Message 49 of 61
12 May 2014 at 8:37pm | IP Logged 
Via Diva wrote:
Gemuse, well, it depends on a person. It's hard for me to work
if I don't see a point of it. Languages
are related to communications. What's the point of learning a language if I'm not going
to communicate in
it?


Your earlier post kind of implied that you shied away from anything hard. What you are
saying now is that you shy away from hard things if you dont see a purpose to it. These
are two very different things.

I am like you, I have 0 interest in doing things to which I do not see a point to.
For you, you seem to not have decided on how much language learning is worth to to. Or
maybe you have (decided it's not worth much to you) and are unwilling to accept that,
and that you should thus quit. Quitting would be a perfectly reasonable decision, and
allow you to direct your energies elsewhere.

In life, you have to decide which things would be "nice to have" and things for which
it is worth spending hours and hours over. For instance, it would have been nice if I
could play the piano, the guitar, mix music, have a six pack, be an expert in chess.
Are any of these things worth spending hours and hours for me now? No.

What might some of the practical reasons be for language learning? You want to be able
to emigrate. You want to read literature in the TL. It will help you in your job.
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Bao
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 Message 50 of 61
12 May 2014 at 11:48pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
@Penelope, it's personal experiences more than stereotypes. Even my mum says: "but you speak to me! you're an extravert!" and pushes her talkativeness on me whenever I'm with her. I love my mum and I'm comfortable speaking of nearly anything with her, but I would enjoy it so much more if she spoke a tiny bit less.
Part of the problem is that much of the bullying and default-ism in the world is unintentional. We know that you just want to be nice and friendly and often try to help us. But please listen when we say why we don't need to be saved.

I personally don't mind people talking, even talking a lot. What I mind is people talking and expecting I follow their pace, their choice of topics, their view points, their ways of talking about a topic when they don't do the same for me. I'll still engage with them when I think not doing it would be detrimental to my situation or a relationship I care about - with my boss, senior coworkers, extended family, family of friends. But it's really exhausting, and I generally avoid people like that, or - and that's the problem - groups forming around people like that.
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Serpent
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 Message 51 of 61
13 May 2014 at 3:12am | IP Logged 
Very true. "speaking a tiny bit less" also implies listening a bit more to what I say.
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schoenewaelder
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 Message 52 of 61
13 May 2014 at 6:50pm | IP Logged 
So how do the self professed introverts manage to do so much posting? I usually find I
get quite quickly worn out after I've written a couple.
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tarvos
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 Message 53 of 61
13 May 2014 at 7:30pm | IP Logged 
By typing on my keyboard. You see, that's what we use it for.
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Itadakimasu
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 Message 54 of 61
13 May 2014 at 8:05pm | IP Logged 
Gemuse wrote:
Do you introverts find sound/audio taxing? I find learning from books requires less
energy that concentrating on assimil etc audio.

And here is an article on introversion that I liked
http://themattwalshblog.com/2013/09/11/im-an-i ntrovert-and-i-dont-need-to-
come-out-of-my-shell/







This is an strange topic lol. I'm not sure what introversion has to do with someone's preferences. There are probably some introverts here that do, and some that don't. When I read the topic I was expecting there to be some scholarly journals/studies to go along with it :/



I am the opposite of introverted in as much ways as you can be and I find neither "taxing". I would think most people here are the same, as some people here know as many as 6-7 languages. If they found it taxing, they probably wouldn't be doing it, and seeing as how like 95% of people here use Assimil, they can't find it taxing.
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Itadakimasu
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 Message 55 of 61
13 May 2014 at 8:06pm | IP Logged 
Gemuse wrote:
Do you introverts find sound/audio taxing? I find learning from books requires less
energy that concentrating on assimil etc audio.

And here is an article on introversion that I liked
http://themattwalshblog.com/2013/09/11/im-an-i ntrovert-and-i-dont-need-to-
come-out-of-my-shell/



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Bao
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 Message 56 of 61
13 May 2014 at 8:21pm | IP Logged 
schoenewaelder wrote:
So how do the self professed introverts manage to do so much posting? I usually find I
get quite quickly worn out after I've written a couple.

Assuming you mean that as a completely innocent question - in many types of written communication you set the pace for your reply yourself, within an acceptable time frame. Even more, nobody knows if you decide to reread several times, if you do something completely different before returning to a topic; even if you start a reply and never finish it, or if you start twenty times before you end up with the version you wanted to write. You're not expected to communicate your attention to the other person during that time and it's less likely the other person will understand your willingness to pay attention to whatever that person is saying as proof of your willingness to engage with that person, as opposed to topic they are talking about. Now, I'm not saying one type of communication is any better than the other - I believe that both have their place, people you communicate with and topics you communicate about.

(Well, I personally average slightly more than one post on this forum per day I've been on it ...)


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