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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 33 of 37 10 July 2014 at 3:35am | IP Logged | ||
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Found a nice quote that made me think of this topic:
Every act of perception is to some degree an act of creation, and every act of memory is to some degree an act of imagination. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5129 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 34 of 37 10 July 2014 at 5:09am | IP Logged | ||
I know we're talking overall TV-watching, but I don't think TV commercials or news will give you much more, either. But commercials, in particular, provide a pretty good source of narrow-banded learning. Infomercials, even more so. In my experience, there's nothing more effective that having a product and what it does hammered into your head repeatedly, whether it's a 30 second spot or a half hour infomercial. And short 30 second spots tend to be repeated throughout a typical half hour or hour long show. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| victorhart Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie United States mandarinexperiment.o Joined 3706 days ago 66 posts - 155 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese*, Spanish, French Studies: Mandarin | Message 35 of 37 07 October 2014 at 3:58am | IP Logged | ||
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I'll offer a somewhat different point of view, for what it's worth.
Though I can't answer your question directly because of the way it's framed and a lot of missing variables, I would say to absolutely go for it (if you haven't already), and the results will be between satisfactory and great, as long as: - You are really enjoying or at least very much engaged in what you're watching Your results will be enhanced if: - You combine the listening with reading, writing, and speaking with a native teacher who will correct you (greatly enhanced) - You watch things that are not WAY above your current level (somewhat enhanced, especially because it will increase engagement) I will disagree with some posters, and say that the following variables don't make too much of a difference - Repeating the same episodes again and again. Do it only if you enjoy it. You can also just watch a lot more shows just once. Repetition happens anyway, namely of high frequency vocabulary and common grammatical structures. - Using English subtitles, any kind of subtitles, or any type of memorization tools. These strategies can provide some benefits, but also some disadvantages. The most important thing is to enjoy yourself while engaging with the language as natives use it. That is a key to effective learning that can hardly be overstated. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4046 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 36 of 37 07 October 2014 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you don't study any grammar even just the comprehension is blurred. If you master
the language structures you can understand much better because you know every part of the sentence which function it has. To me a better plan is - study 300 hours of grammar - read 300 hours of books - watch 300 hours of videos. And if you want to master the spoken language: - speak for 999999999999 hours ;) Edited by tristano on 07 October 2014 at 5:46pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4387 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 37 of 37 07 October 2014 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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300 hours of grammar , in my opinion way too much .
I can report my experience : after about 700 hours of German (80 % L and L /R ) I have hardly missed a word in a C1 sample listening Goethe exam ) , however the reality is that there are situations where I can understand close to100 per cent and others where I miss many words . There are radio programms or films I can understand very very well others where I still stumble . It all depends on the topics , accents and the speakers way of speaking . I guess it also depends on the language . 1 person has voted this message useful |
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