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Subtitling as a way to learn languages

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cordelia0507
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27 May 2013 at 2:33am | IP Logged 
Many people actually use subtitling as a way to learn languages.
I.e. producing subtitles for a film in the language you are trying to learn.
Or subtitling a film in your own language, for speakers of the language you are learning.


Benefits of this approach:

Help enabling others to enjoy a nice film that would not otherwise be accessible to them. (upload the subtitles to online repositories when they are finished)
Practice listening to "natural" spoken language, and follow the plot as it develops. The process is not boring but quite nice.
Work with others and get feedback.


Has anyone done this, or is interested in trying? Like I said, it's not technically different and I can explain how to do it in a really nice tool that anyone can use without difficulty, assuming you have access to the film.



Edited by cordelia0507 on 27 May 2013 at 2:37am

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schoenewaelder
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27 May 2013 at 7:10pm | IP Logged 
Tell us more. Don't you have to be pretty advanced to be able to do that?
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simonov
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27 May 2013 at 7:26pm | IP Logged 
schoenewaelder wrote:
Tell us more. Don't you have to be pretty advanced to be able to do that?

She can't tell you more! She's become "Account: not active" and her last posts seem to have been deleted! One wonders why.
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Cavesa
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 Message 4 of 8
27 May 2013 at 10:39pm | IP Logged 
That would explain part of the mistakes in subtitles. :-D

Yes, it is a nice way to practice your language from the intermediate level up. And so
would be reading for Librivox.

But I would be very careful here. Most people using these things are not doing it to
help you learn. They want to use these for their fun and there is nothing wrong about
it.

Therefore I decided not to record for Librivox as it would be selfish from me. What if
another learner learned mistakes from me? Or people could just not enjoy the chapters
by me and that would damage the work by others.

With subtitles, it is a bit similar in my opinion. I can see far too many mistakes and
ruined jokes in the subtitles, even professional ones, to add to it. Of course, I am
sure I could make subtitles of much better quality for both French and English movies.
(If I had the time) but many people shouldn't be making them. Good will is not all you
need here.
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YnEoS
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30 May 2013 at 5:54am | IP Logged 
Not exactly the same thing, but a few years back I was watching a bunch of fan-subbed Czech films, and with several of them the subtitles went by too quickly or went out of sync with the dialogue. So I took it upon myself to correct them and found myself picking up some Czech vocabulary as I was doing it.
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Helid
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31 May 2013 at 9:29pm | IP Logged 
There is a great website to learning languages by creating subtitles (to be precise
lyrics). Check it out http://www.lyricstraining.com/
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Serpent
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01 June 2013 at 12:22am | IP Logged 
yeeees i love lyricstraining! but it's not the same thing. and for me the best thing is the standard way of playing the game, with gaps. i'm not sure syncing the lyrics with the song is quite as useful, unless you still have trouble with the correspondence between the written and spoken language (from the available languages, it's arguably only a major problem for French learners).
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baskerville
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19 June 2013 at 4:59pm | IP Logged 
Some subtitling/fansubbing groups that translate from Japanese to English use 字幕放送
videos or those videos that have Japanese subtitles for the hearing impaired. It's easier
to translate to English if you can see the characters instead of just listening to the
audio.

There are also those who can translate without the Japanese subs.


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