gwyner Pentaglot Newbie United States Joined 5949 days ago 23 posts - 75 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchC1, GermanC1, ItalianB1, Russian Studies: Hungarian
| Message 1 of 5 27 May 2013 at 6:07pm | IP Logged |
This is an article I just finished about using mnemonics to remember words. I used this technique for my Hungarian as a kind of experiment, and it worked *really*
well; I'm going to use it for every language I learn from now on. Hopefully it'll be useful to others, as well!
Edited by gwyner on 27 May 2013 at 6:11pm
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Helid Diglot Newbie Poland Joined 4318 days ago 24 posts - 35 votes Speaks: Polish*, English
| Message 2 of 5 24 June 2013 at 11:34am | IP Logged |
I've been using this method since moment, when I started learning my second language.
What's the best in this? More words you know, it's easier to remember next ;).
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jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5417 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
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I've also used mnemonics in the past. They can be a useful crutch to help words on their way to becoming part of long-term memory where eventually the crutches fall off.
Think you might like Memrise for learning more Hungarian with plenty ready made mnemonics. The link I provided is directly to the Hungarian section but the site covers many languages.
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kopretina Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4348 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: French, English* Studies: Korean, German
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jazzboy.bebop wrote:
Think you might like Memrise
for learning more Hungarian with plenty ready made mnemonics. The link I provided is
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I absolutely love memrise, and completely recommend it. Plus, it's completely free (as of
now).
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Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4307 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French
| Message 5 of 5 30 June 2013 at 2:50pm | IP Logged |
jazzboy.bebop wrote:
Think you might like Memrise for learning more Hungarian with plenty ready made mnemonics. The link I provided is directly to the Hungarian section but the site covers many languages. |
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I used Memrise almost exclusively when I first started learning German. I got really involved in making "Mems" and even made my own courses dealing with inflections in Noun Phrases. But when I look back to the two months I spent only learning vocabulary... I can't say that I feel they were most effectively spent. Although I clearly learned hundreds of words through that Anki-like system, I still only have words accessible at all times if I learn them through Shadowing. The best I can say is that two months of solid daily Memrise - at least 2 hours a day - gave me a passive recall of about 50% of the words I "watered" through to the very end (if you're reading this and you're confused, it doesn't matter). I will recall them if reading, but not usually if I'm hearing them, because I just don't anticipate what sort of context they'll appear in.
(Not to toot my own horn, but I make an exception for my own course on the grammatical points of Noun Phrases. Here is perhaps a gap where Memrise might really have utility, rather than simply listing dictionary items).
Finally, I'll bring up a bit of psychology I remember reading somewhere. There's a principle in Memory Psychology that if your setting around you resembles the setting that you learned something in, you'll be more likely to remember that thing. There was even an experiment which found that if somebody is UNDERWATER while remembering a random association of symbols, that they'll be more likely to recall that association when later also underwater, in comparison to the same only NOT underwater. Well the interface of memrise may well be a similar sort of setting to being "underwater," and this, I fear, might give you a misleading sense of progress. I would like to discourage use of this site by absolute beginners, because I don't judge the experience to have been an effective step towards comprehension but rather - excuse the metaphor - more like educational foreplay. I would certainly advocate Shadowing as an incomparably efficacious method for initial study.
Edited by Retinend on 30 June 2013 at 2:55pm
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