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| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4846 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 1 of 15 13 June 2013 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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MISSION: You have been captured by aliens and given a lot of podcasts intended for native speakers of the language that you are learning. The aliens tell you to use the podcasts to improve your listening comprehension. The podcasts are audio only, with no transcripts. How do you use them to help your listening?
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 2 of 15 13 June 2013 at 3:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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are they in japanese, portuguese or esperanto?
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 3 of 15 13 June 2013 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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I first listen to them.
If they're too hard to understand and I get too little out of them, I have two further options: either I learn more of the language and I try again later, or else I slow the recordings down. Of course, any alien capable of flying all the way here would no doubt already have an accurate method of transcription, but that's another story. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 4 of 15 13 June 2013 at 7:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Easy. I kill all of the aliens with my hidden gun, then steal the rest of the material
they hid from me and use it to my advantage. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4735 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 15 13 June 2013 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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Listen through them, copy the parts that make any sense to me in Audacity (hey, it's less
of a cheat than pulling out a hidden gun) and shadow them. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5555 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 6 of 15 13 June 2013 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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1. Make friends with the alien inmates and/or guards, and learn some basic survival vocabulary through social interaction (think of the film "Enemy Mine" here).
2. Use some clever component from whatever device I'm using to listen to the podcasts, to open the doors on my cell and escape instead (well, it works in Star Trek). 3. Learn the language with access to further resources and tools outside the cell, and for the time being, until immersion has more to offer than sheer podcast torture captivity, from as safe a distance as possible. Edited by Teango on 13 June 2013 at 8:40pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 15 13 June 2013 at 8:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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So the aliens could tell me to improve my listening comprehension? In English, I presume? Hopefully not in Sumerian, but Latin or Greek might function. If I understood their instructions I could also ask for a transcript and a translation, and I could then do some listening/reading.
If the message was conveyed solely through gestures that strategy would probably fail, and it would take more than a pile of recordings with or without transcripts to learn the language unless it already was partly comprehensible (and if the aliens also understand the language then the aituation is covered by case no. 1 above). But with the help of native speakers who could supply short utterances with context I might learn enough do understand at least some words in the podcasts. Without this helping hand it would be a total waste to time to listen to the recordings. Actually this scenario reminds me about the film series Shogun, where a whole village was told that they all would be massacred if the protagonist didn't soon learn some Japanese soon. And as language learners we probably all recognize the value of having mentors and teachers with a genuine interest in helping you... Edited by Iversen on 14 June 2013 at 7:27am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 8 of 15 13 June 2013 at 9:08pm | IP Logged | ||
If the author allows himself the luxury of allowing aliens, I am allowing myself the luxury of a gun. But my point is, what is the use of artificially restricting yourself? If you have practical restrictions you first find out how you can break the restrictions (it's not an exam. There's no cheating). If you can't, then you deal with what you've been given. And at least it would be something to listen to. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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