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DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6150 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian
| Message 17 of 20 16 July 2013 at 10:21am | IP Logged |
Cavesa wrote:
It iss better for SOME people at SOME points of their learning, not generally better.
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I completely agree. I'd never imagine myself dissecting a Spanish or French film in segments. My comment was intended to explain the OP's original experience. If you're language level is at B1 or greater, you should be able to follow a film without much difficulty. However, I may pause and replay a section if I missed an idiom, phrase or colloquial expression .
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 18 of 20 16 July 2013 at 10:31am | IP Logged |
s_allard wrote:
I don't think there is a question of extensive (i.e. long movie) vs intensive ( short segment repeatedly) listening. It all depends on your goals. |
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It certainly does. I listen intensively for the sounds and the melody, but mostly not for the meaning. If I do listen for the meaning then I mostly listen extensively because there can't be much meaning in the short segments I use for intensive listening. So extensive listening will for me only be meaningful when I more or less know all the vocabulary and the necessary syntax beforehand, which in practice will mean that it happens after I have learnt to read the language in question. For others who learn from teachers and simple conversations extensive listening will of course happen earlier, and there will be a stronger active element, but on a narrower lexical base.
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| Helid Diglot Newbie Poland Joined 4318 days ago 24 posts - 35 votes Speaks: Polish*, English
| Message 19 of 20 16 July 2013 at 3:42pm | IP Logged |
@montmorency Yes, I am referring to this series. I am completely aware that they speak in
a specialized way. Now I am listening TED podcasts and it doesn't influence wrong on my
listening comprehension.
I found that there is one more advantage in a short segment listening. With this method
you are able, at the end, to understand almost everything. This fact can give you a
strong motivation to continue your work.
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| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5429 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish
| Message 20 of 20 16 July 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged |
As I said, there is no argument over extensive vs intensive lisening. Some people do one or the other. I actually do
both. As @iversen has so well put it, intensive listening is good for the phonology particiularly. I totally agree. and I
would include grammar and vocabulary as well for repetitive practice.
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