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Amun
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 Message 9 of 15
16 July 2013 at 10:23am | IP Logged 
Yeah I sometimes do it, just to see if any progress is made.
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BaronBill
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 Message 10 of 15
16 July 2013 at 4:08pm | IP Logged 
Amun wrote:
Yeah I sometimes do it, just to see if any progress is made.

Have you found this helpful?

Additionally, what exactly are you measuring when you listen to yourself? Accent? Prosody? Enunciation? I am very curious as to whether this would be a worthwhile addition to the shadowing process.

Edited by BaronBill on 16 July 2013 at 4:08pm

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Amun
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 Message 11 of 15
16 July 2013 at 4:58pm | IP Logged 
BaronBill wrote:

Have you found this helpful?

Additionally, what exactly are you measuring when you listen to yourself? Accent?
Prosody? Enunciation? I am very curious as to whether this would be a worthwhile
addition to the shadowing process.


Yes, my main issue with pronouncing foreign languages correctly seem to be vowels.. I
often erroneously default to Dutch sounding vowels (a bit too elongated), while I use
most consonants correctly. Even though I perfectly understand their sound in the
foreign languages, nevertheless I still often unconsciously default to Dutch-like
vowels. However, when I shadow this is less problematic than in my natural speech, but
when I record and review I adjust myself faster and better.
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 Message 12 of 15
16 July 2013 at 7:25pm | IP Logged 
Do your headphones allow a certain resonance, a buzz, from your own voice to be heard
while you talk along with the audio? If you've ever tuned a guitar or other instrument
to a reference note, you should be "tuning" your own voice to the audio, so to speak.
In other words, compare the two and keep getting better at it until the distinctions
are natural for you to perceive.

The other side of this is how you speak - while you are matching your voice to the
audio you should really put a stress on the muscles of your mouth so that by the end of
15-30 minutes you should feel pretty tired in that area. In my L2 it's easy to draw
upon many fun stereotypes of accents. I exaggerate them to the point of cruelty.

You shouldn't feel like a dog on a leash, but rather like an actor rehearsing for a
show. You sort of are.
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Amun
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 Message 13 of 15
16 July 2013 at 9:22pm | IP Logged 
Nope, I have been using fairly standard in-ear headphones (sans mic functions), which ones
do you use?
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 Message 14 of 15
16 July 2013 at 11:38pm | IP Logged 
Amun wrote:
Nope, I have been using fairly standard in-ear headphones (sans mic
functions), which ones
do you use?




Something like this - they make a little seal in your ear. If you can somehow try out a
lot of different pairs before you buy then give them a little shadowing test: some are TOO
isolating and you hear the rumble of your own voice way too loud over the recording. You
want a pair which give you a little "feedback" (if that's the word) but not too much.
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Amun
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 Message 15 of 15
17 July 2013 at 1:24am | IP Logged 
I think I got some earphones with a small mic in them on the side that came along with my
smartphone. However, I need to figure out what application can produce real time
microphone input along with allowing the shadowing audio to play.


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