Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4307 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French
| Message 1 of 7 15 July 2013 at 9:22pm | IP Logged |
If you have large body of audio (an Assimil or Linguaphone type chunk of 60-120 minues) that you've studied to the
point of knowing every nook and cranny... why not try one extra kink before considering it exhausted.
As well as editing the audio to remove any ostensibly "helpful" blank noise on the tape, why not play with the
options on your software and speed it up a bit? My software doesn't let you do this without making the audio go all
"chipmunk"-y, but this isn't all too bad. It at least makes for a novel challenge. Just to compare, I chipmunked up
some audio of my native language that I had lying around, and after a bit of experimentation I found that a doubling
of speed (200% speed) was odd at first - but entirely listenable. Pushing this to 250% became difficult, and I doubt
I could handle this sort of speed if the material was entirely fresh. So I made a big fat mp3 of my Linguaphone
audiobook and put the speed to 150%.
As much as I treasure this course, the audio is quite slowly spoken even in the final lesson, so this speed more or
less brought it up to the speed of the 1960s Assimi course for German. That is to say, a natural speed.
The result for the Linguaphone lesson at 150% was that the later lessons were at a slight speed above natural
speech, and the earlier were bumped up to more or less ordinary speed.
So I've been listening twice weekly to this edited tape - now reduced from 2hrs to 90minutes - just as I have been,
but with the added practice of speed and the convenience of less time spent. I'm now bumping it up to 175% up from
the original speed.
In conclusion, I recommend this method to those of you who have thoroughly digested the contents of a book with
accompanying audio, and know that audio intimately. You should feel secure that there is no realistic rate of
speech that is beyond you with the structures and vocabulary that you know. And of course this also does
exactly the same job as reviewing the material, which you'd be doing anyway - and all in less time, to boot.
Edited by Retinend on 16 July 2013 at 12:19am
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daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4520 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic
| Message 2 of 7 15 July 2013 at 11:11pm | IP Logged |
audacity and praat can speed up audio without changing pitch
chipmunks are only funny in cartoons
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Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4307 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French
| Message 3 of 7 16 July 2013 at 12:10am | IP Logged |
Do you mean "change tempo"? This butchers the audio, whereas in "Chipmunk mode" at least
everything is in the same fidelity as the original, only occupying less space in time.
That aside, I've just discovered that Audacity has a tool which renders my many hours of
audio editing as as good as wasted: "Truncate Silence" immediately clips out any silence
longer than x milliseconds. Gah.
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daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4520 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic
| Message 4 of 7 17 July 2013 at 5:18pm | IP Logged |
yeah, I can speed it up to about 125%, more than that and the audio will sound unnatural
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5129 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 5 of 7 17 July 2013 at 5:40pm | IP Logged |
Retinend wrote:
If you have large body of audio (an Assimil or Linguaphone type chunk
of 60-120 minues) that you've studied to the
point of knowing every nook and cranny... why not try one extra kink before considering
it exhausted.
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If it works for you, great.
Personally, I wouldn't go to the trouble for what would amount to negligible gain, if
any, since I already know "every nook and cranny".
I'd rather spend the time watching a movie I've not seen or read a book I've not read
and test my comprehension level that way.
R.
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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 6 of 7 17 July 2013 at 7:00pm | IP Logged |
daegga wrote:
yeah, I can speed it up to about 125%, more than that and the audio
will sound unnatural
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Is it that bad? I've heard that slowing down more than 30% is bad, but I've not tried
speeding up.
I guess you can also "chipmunk" with audacity, using the other option, but don't know
what the quality is like.
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BTW, if anyone is still using an old version of Audacity, they should check out the
download site, as there was a new version this year (2.0.3).
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Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4307 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French
| Message 7 of 7 18 July 2013 at 12:38am | IP Logged |
daegga wrote:
audacity and praat can speed up audio without changing pitch
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I found that if you play with the "truncate silence" option you can keep the same pitch
but speed up the syllables. It's a bit choppy but it works. I've used both the speed-up
affect and this extreme truncation and turned out a new, shorter file of my audio.
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