gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4033 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 1 of 11 22 November 2013 at 4:50am | IP Logged |
I currently speak English (even though my writing skills are horrible) and portuguese,
and even though I'm also studying Spanish, I was planning on learning one more language
after I've finished Spanish, mostly because I want to speak an exotic language for the
chic factor (not sure if I'm using the term correctly), but I want to a have reason to
learn it. And I'm sorry things like: the beauty of the language and the great amounts of
culture and history that comes with the language, don't matter that much to me like it
does for MANY people on this forum. What I really would like to know is what are the
biggest countries in mechatronics? And I know that many european countries speak English
very well, but speaking the language of the people I need to do business with would
surely give me an advantage.
Edited by gRodriguez on 22 November 2013 at 5:51am
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1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4295 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan
| Message 2 of 11 22 November 2013 at 5:29am | IP Logged |
If you are C2 then your English cannot be so bad though, but nayway, perhaps Germany and
Sweden?
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gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4033 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 3 of 11 22 November 2013 at 5:48am | IP Logged |
1e4e6 wrote:
If you are C2 then your English cannot be so bad though, but nayway,
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I have a serious problem writing long texts in English, I heard it has something to do
with the fact that Portuguese can have much longer sentences than English, so I wind up
getting confused while writing not to mention it becomes pain to read it. If what I
wrote
in my first good doesn't show that, it's because I had that English=/=Portuguese thing
in
mind and the fact that it took me a decent amount of time to write it.
I know Germany is one of the biggest countries in Mechanical Enginering (which
has a lot to do with Mechatronics), but exactly what kind of reputation does Sweden
have?
Edited by gRodriguez on 22 November 2013 at 5:51am
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1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4295 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan
| Message 4 of 11 22 November 2013 at 6:23am | IP Logged |
But you had to do extensive writing for C2 though? I suppose you can use the skills
therefore, I think in C2 you have to write essays and such.
I am not very informative about mechanical engineering as I am more into chemical
engineering, but Sweden do have Volvo and IKEA, maybe that has something related to mech?
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gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4033 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 5 of 11 22 November 2013 at 4:18pm | IP Logged |
1e4e6 wrote:
But you had to do extensive writing for C2 though? I suppose you can use
the skills
therefore, I think in C2 you have to write essays and such.
I am not very informative about mechanical engineering as I am more into chemical
engineering, but Sweden do have Volvo and IKEA, maybe that has something related to mech?
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I am not sure how I had a decent score at TOEFL at writing, it was probably because I had
some TOEFL classes before the test. If I learned anything with those classes I already
forgot everything except for that diference between the length of sentences in Portuguese
and English.
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4673 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 6 of 11 22 November 2013 at 4:49pm | IP Logged |
You could try Japanese.
;)
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gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4033 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 7 of 11 22 November 2013 at 5:24pm | IP Logged |
Medulin wrote:
You could try Japanese.
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That's probably what I'm going for, but even though the pronunciation seems easy to me,
all those thousand of characters really intimidate me. And since there are so many of
course they have to be complex, if they weren't it would impossible to differentiate
all of them, that's another problem for me. It would probably take half an hour for me
to write a single sentence in Japanese, each character would take the time of
sentence, and they would probably look like s*%@.
Does anyone know what the difficult for Japanese is for a Brazilian Portuguese speaker?
I read it's *****, but I guess that's suppose to be for an English speaker. Since it's
much easier for a lusophone (at least a Brazilian one) to pronounce Japanese words, the
difficult should go down to **** or is the pronunciation such a small part when
compared to everything else that it isn't worth a level of difficulty?
Edited by gRodriguez on 24 November 2013 at 1:08am
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AlexTG Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 4643 days ago 178 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese
| Message 8 of 11 23 November 2013 at 2:11am | IP Logged |
Characters are the main problem. Then the unfamiliar vocabulary, then the the unfamiliar grammar. I don't
think pronunciation would have too much effect. Most people round these parts use the book "Remembering
The Kanji" by James Heisig. Now this does make it alot easier and less time consuming than for the folks
learning through rote memorisation. However, with the time you spend learning the meaning and writing of
the characters through Heisig you could already be doing useful things with German. So if you're not really
enamoured with Japanese I'd pass.
Edited by AlexTG on 23 November 2013 at 2:13am
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