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chokofingrz
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 Message 17 of 19
12 December 2013 at 3:50am | IP Logged 
corjine wrote:
How do I get past this? I have no self-discipline, whatsoever.


If you don't have any self-discipline, get somebody else to apply the discipline. Now, before you start hiring someone to stand there with a baseball bat and break your kneecaps if you stop learning, what I'm actually referring to is a study buddy. Yes, a real person - this method works. A class with homework assignments, or an attractive member of the opposite sex who speaks or learns that language, could also be good motivators.
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Via Diva
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 Message 18 of 19
12 December 2013 at 5:43am | IP Logged 
corjine wrote:
Via Diva, to me, the economic/possible job
enhancements are very important to
me, along with the culture and language love aspect. I'm investing
what, hundreds of
hours into a language just so I can learn it? Love may be blind, but
the economic
opportunities are not. I don't think Italian will be useless to me
either--there are a
lot of Italian auto manufacturers.....

Well, I have the same problem with self-discipline and I doubt that
it'll
be easy for you to find enough motivation. Soon you'll be thinking
that there's no guarantee and probably give up.
I know it myself very well. I was relatively good at school English, but
my strongest skill was Eng-Rus translation. I wasn't thinking in
language though my level was somewhere around our even above
A2. I see now that if you like the language you naturally start to think
in it regardless of level you have. It may be nothing serious, it may be

full of various mistakes, but these are your thoughts in a foreign
language. I had no improvement in English until I really started to like
it (thanks to music).
I wouldn't say that it's impossible to learn a language if you don't
like it, but it's certainly very hard.

Edited by Via Diva on 12 December 2013 at 5:45am

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Serpent
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 Message 19 of 19
12 December 2013 at 2:22pm | IP Logged 
Self-discipline can be replaced with passion.

Via Diva, in my opinion thinking in the language depends on your methods and not your liking of it. Many people can't think in their L2 despite loving it, just because they're too used to translating. But I agree that it's very hard to learn a language you don't like. It's time-consuming enough to learn what you do like, after all!


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