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soclydeza85
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 Message 17 of 45
16 September 2014 at 10:43pm | IP Logged 
I tell people it's because I got tired of speaking English all the time.

Actual reasons... There are many, but they all stem from the simple fact that it's because I want to. I hope to use German for a job someday, I hope to live in Switzerland or Germany one day, I hope to make plently of German speaking friends; but my main reason is just that I've always wanted to be bilingual (and also that German is awesome), and being so would allow for all of the previously mentioned to happen. It's also an intellectual challenge. I've always been impressed by people that could speak a language that they didn't get for free. I actually used to think I was crazy (being so infatuated with foreign languages and wanting to learn multiple just for the sake of interest) until I found this site.



Edited by soclydeza85 on 16 September 2014 at 10:46pm

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Cavesa
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 Message 18 of 45
16 September 2014 at 11:25pm | IP Logged 
Ari wrote:
I've got "Le Tchèque sans peine" flirting with me from my bookshelf. :) I did a few lessons before summer, but right now I'm busy with Portuguese, and also Czech being Indoeuropean and using the latin alphabet turns me off slightly. But damn, those consonant clusters make me all hot and bothered. Once I got to the fourth lesson (Čtvrtá lekce), I couldn't stop myself from walking around repeating it for myself with a stupid smile on my face.

Also, it's weird how whenever you read something about Czech, the whole "they invented the word 'robot'" thing invariably comes up. I guess it's because Kafka didn't write in Czech …


Of course it comes up! Or do you think we've got that many interesting things to be told about the language and literature? :-D Nope, not really. Well, we've got some interesting sci-fi/fantasy authors nowadays (but I'd recommend learning Polish or Russian to get more of such), today's "high" literature is horrible, there is the awesome Čapek (my favourite), there are the fools who revived the language in the 19th century not imagining the consequences and so on. So, let's be grateful for Čapek's robot.

Yeah, Kafka wasn't a czech writer. Well, he could have been considered such, had we kept to the patriotism based on geography that had been growing during the 1st republic. But now, Kafka is an important austrian/germanic/whatever author (whom I really don't like) abused as a Prague touristy icon.

Sorry about the alphabet, I think we could have kept to the old slavonic one, it is prettier then cyrillics and much more fascinating than latin :-D Or we could have invented something original, given that our genetic roots are a mix like one third Germanic, one quarter celtic, one third slavic and a few % of others (most importantly scandinavian). (info from a presentation on genetic roots of european nations I saw years ago at school and which was based on some serious research I cannot quote now).

Strč prst skrz krk. Drž. Vrč. Vrz. And I could think about a few not publicly presentable ones right now ;-)
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Via Diva
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 Message 19 of 45
17 September 2014 at 12:04am | IP Logged 
I had no reasons for studying English apart from school needs for quite a while. At some point I began to listen to English (well, American) music and quite soon it was clear that I'm a lyrics addict, always want to know what's going on in songs and so on. I remember a night spent awake cause I finally found Breaking Benjamin's lyrics (I had rather crappy "3G" mobile internet back then and was not experienced about that, so it was quite an achievement). Further on my preferences in music moved on to more complex ones. I am still not comfortable reading Opeth's texts (speaks for the level of English in Sweden, haha) though...
I also added reading and watching movies in English along the way, and my aim for speaking was, frankly, the latest one.
For German the list would be shorter. I like some Rammstein (surprise, surprise), but nothing frantic. There's plenty of Russians who likes them a great deal better, therefore it's easy to find translations. And even when I got into some German musicales, I stood still: "I need no scary German in my life!".
And then one day due to pure coincidence I picked up an Austrian band named Angizia. Almost no translations available. Oh, I was hopelessly searching, I was damning that it's easier to find French translations and so on. Eventually I gave up and decided to study something. My progress is rather sloppy, but I am surely able to enjoy German lyrics even without complete understanding. However, to reach the original reason of reading in German I have a lot of work to do.
Only some time after it occurred to me that it'd be great to speak such a beautiful language (and, of coure, to understand those who already speaks it).

The rest is short:
Swedish: funny, intriguing and fascinating (and these are bad reasons actually).
Greek: the alphabet and the script, "cause it's Greek" (also bad ones).
Italian: "why not?" (very bad reason, but at least I haven't started yet...).
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rdearman
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 Message 20 of 45
17 September 2014 at 10:53am | IP Logged 
g-bod wrote:
Because many years ago I watched an anime film for the first time and was with a guy who, trying to impress me, told me that there were many "hidden meanings" in the Japanese text that appeared on screen. I just had to know the truth...

Bonus side effect: I now get the "hidden meanings" of a variety of ill-advised tattoos!


I have always wanted to pay a load of Chinese people to pass by a person with Hanzi tattoos and laugh. After the 10th or 12th person they'd get a bit worried I figure.
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Cavesa
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 Message 21 of 45
17 September 2014 at 12:52pm | IP Logged 
Via Diva wrote:
Italian: "why not?" (very bad reason, but at least I haven't started yet...).


I think that's the best reason we've had in the thread so far.

But really, it is annoying how most people question our hobby. I am not walking around, asking people wild questions "why would anyone want to play table tennis?" or "isn't it a waste of time to paint when you know you'll never sell a single work?".
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shk00design
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 Message 22 of 45
17 September 2014 at 5:24pm | IP Logged 
My reason for learning French is partly for practical reason and partly because nobody in my family
managed to master it to a high level. In my part of the world it is common to see job ads that require
someone to be bilingual in English & French. At this point I don't see myself at the level where I can
communicate effectively in the workplace.

When it comes to Croatian, my high school math teacher (Mr. Y) started picking it up in the early 1980s
and got to a high enough fluency to interact with the locals. I don't think he ever attended classes. His
reason sounded a bit odd but nonetheless a legitimate reason. In 1981 specifically, apparitions of the
Virgin Mary appeared in Medjugorje, a town in Croatia. Mr. Y would show his class a video of Medjugorje
in the beginning of the school year and started travelling to Croatia during his summer breaks as a
devout Catholic. To this day the Catholic Church has not certified Medjugorje as a holy site but Mr. Y
would go back every year well into his retirement and picking up more Croatian along the way.

I know a lady who got into Spanish as an extracurricular activity. She probably started over 6 years ago. I
don't think she cares whether she made any real progress communicating with people. She simply built
her classes into a weekly routine to keep her time occupied.
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horshod
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 Message 23 of 45
17 September 2014 at 7:03pm | IP Logged 
I always tell people I am learning language X because I enjoy learning languages in general. That seems to be pretty
convincing to most people and is often followed by something like, "Oh that's interesting. So what other languages
do you speak?", which is straightforward to answer (EDIT: As vonPeterHof says below, not quite that straightforward.
I just tell them which languages I have spent time studying seriously.).

Edited by horshod on 17 September 2014 at 8:44pm

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vonPeterhof
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 Message 24 of 45
17 September 2014 at 7:34pm | IP Logged 
horshod wrote:
I always tell people I am learning language X because I enjoy learning languages in general. That seems to be pretty
convincing to most people and is often followed by something like, "Oh that's interesting. So what other languages
do you speak?", which is straight forward to answer.
Same here. In reality I usually have at least one additional reason for all my languages, but I don't recall ever having talked to anyone for whom the first answer wasn't sufficient.

I don't think the second question is all that straightforward though. Responding with something along the lines of "Well, it all depends on how one defines "to speak"..." makes me feel like a huge phoney, so I usually start by talking about how many languages I've attempted to study seriously, and if that doesn't suffice I talk about which ones of them I feel more or less comfortable in.


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